[asterisk-users] Dry Copper Pair

[Matt]

So we know, and I know, that a dry copper pair has no load coils, etc.
Generally sells for about $20/line.. sometimes less.

Is there something that iLEC will sell that has load coils in it?  Like say,
if I wanted to run voice over it, and didn't care about data?

IE.. I know this is VoIP, but say I wanted to put an analog extension
someplace.    Is there a cheap alternative I could hook between me and the
remote location, going analog all the way?

On 5/11/07, Jon Pounder <jonp at inline.net> wrote:
>
>
> > On Fri, 11 May 2007, John Treble said something to this effect:
> >
> >> Can you still do "homebrew" PTP T1 in the U.S. this way?  I thought
> this
> >> was nixed by the ILEC/CLECs years ago.
> >
> >    It's logically possible.  But if you're trying to do T1 over a single
> > pair, you'd have to break it out using HDSL/PairGain sort of line
> > equipment, since you obviously can't install field repeaters or do any
> > span conditioning yourself.
>
> >From what I know about it - even with the hdsl you are only going to get
> it to work at full speed over about 10000 cable ft, then you need a
> repeater of some sort - if it was just a raw T1, you're not going to get
> anywhere near the 10000 ft to start with.
>
> the dry copper is a cheap install since they DON'T do the line
> conditioning - remove load coils, etc, but if your reach was only 10000ft
> to start with you're not likely to have load coils etc anyway, and if the
> line is that bad where its got grounds or shorts you would be within your
> rights to demand that be fixed even for dry copper.
>
> The question is really can you get dry copper short enough cable ft to
> span the locations you need and still work with whatever hardware you want
> to throw on the ends of it ?
>
> as far as the conditioning, you could probably even get 20000ft without
> coils if the CO is halfway in the middle since the coils would be based on
> the radius from the CO in the first place, but then again is your hardware
> going to reach that distance and be able to maintain any sort of decent
> transfer rate ?
>
> again, I'm interested to know anyone whose actually done this, and what
> the results were, since I have been thinking of the same thing for a
> while.
>
>
>
> From then on it's a crapshoot and really
> > just depends on whether the copper is of quality, distance,
> > specifications,
> > etc. that can support the specification.  There's no way for them to
> "nix"
> > that, really, other than possibly keeping load coils or other
> constraining
> > stuff on the facilities that tends to need to be removed for various
> > high-speed data line / private line applications.
> >
> > -- Alex
> >
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