[asterisk-users] telemarketer database ....next stages... Was asterisk telemarketer torture sound files

Adam Jacob Muller asterisk-users at adam.gs
Sun May 6 13:26:21 MST 2007


Also,
What *is* a telemarketer?
I have the ACLU on my blacklist, i'm a big contributor to the ACLU  
and instead of being happy, they take this as a sign that they should  
bleed me dry further (the same for lots of political causes).

What occurs to me here is something on the order of dnsbls and how  
they are used for spam in modern well-setup dnsbls.

A query to these dnsbls will return a specific result class (of  
course, since this is a dnsbl it's still a horrible hack but i'm  
advocating the concept not the design).
For example, zen.spamhaus.org (look at http://www.spamhaus.org/faq/ 
answers.lasso?section=DNSBL%20Technical#200), returns A records based  
on why that entry is in the database, so I can choose to use only the  
small manually maintained SBL list, or the XBL list, or just PBL, or  
some combination of these!
Good design (bad implementation though, dns wasn't designed for this :/)

Why not have the same thing in a database of telephone numbers?
Classify numbers depending on who is calling, categories for all the  
different exceptions in the do-not-call laws for example...


This definitely has to be something centralized though, a peer-to- 
peer system is indeed begging for abuse.

-Adam


On May 6, 2007, at 2:22 PM, Steve Finkelstein wrote:

> As good of an idea as that sounds, it would certainly need to be
> moderated in one form or another. It's just begging for abuse to allow
> any user to arbitrary insert numbers on the PSTN deeming them as
> blacklists. Sort of a spamhaus for telephony services ..
>
> Dave Bour wrote:
>> How about a mysql sync - shared module that we could collectively  
>> poll
>> periodically...to track exactly this....share our telemarker  
>> numbers....
>> Would want 1. number, 2. label of who it is... 3. last hit on it...
>> We'd each track our own...maybe an enhancement to the blacklist
>> module...
>> Use a peer to peer model...not unlike dundi...catch refreshes out  
>> of it
>>
>> Thoughts, commments, etc...
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com
>> [mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Adam  
>> Jacob
>> Muller
>> Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 1:35 PM
>> To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
>> Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] asterisk telemarketer torture sound  
>> files
>>
>> Manually,
>> I'm just designating some people as telemarketers (using some MySQL +
>> AGI to evaluate and drop the call) I would like to have a little fun.
>>
>> - Adam
>>
>> On May 6, 2007, at 12:06 PM, Steve Finkelstein wrote:
>>
>>> What logic are you using to determine if the caller is indeed a
>>> telemarketer, anyway?
>>>
>>> Lacy Moore - Aspendora wrote:
>>>> I like to forward them back to themselves, that is, the ones that
>>>> give their phone number.  Check nerdvittles.com.  I think he had  
>>>> some
>>
>>>> kind of torture script setup, if I remember correctly.
>>>>
>>>> On 5/5/07, Salvatore Giudice
>>>> <Salvatore.Giudice at voipsecuritytraining.com> wrote:
>>>>> Just forward them to 1-800-big-dick or some other 800 toll free
>>>>> phone sex line. They can't tell they've been forwarded. They'll
>>>>> figure it out eventually.
>>>>>
>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>> Salvatore Giudice
>>>>> Salvatore.Giudice at VoIPSecurityTraining.com
>>>>>
>>>>> VoIP Security Training, LLC
>>>>> http://VoIPSecurityTraining.com
>>>>>
>>>>> 848 N. Rainbow Blvd. #1676
>>>>> Las Vegas, NV 89107
>>>>> Phone: (617) 959-7625
>>>>> Fax: (214) 279-2906
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com
>>>>> [mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Adam
>>>>> Jacob Muller
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 1:07 PM
>>>>> To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
>>>>> Subject: [asterisk-users] asterisk telemarketer torture sound  
>>>>> files
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> I have some annoying telemarketer calling me on a recurring basis,
>>>>> but I'd like to discourage them a bit and have some fun.
>>>>> I found this:
>>>>> http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+AEL+Telemarketer 
>>>>> +Torture
>>>>> but the link to download the sound files is dead (wyoming.e-
>>>>> tools.com is NXDOMAIN).
>>>>> Anyone have a copy of these?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -Adam
>>>>>
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