[asterisk-users] Upgrade to Asterisk 1.4 - it's one year's old!

[dave cantera]

dovid...
while this seems like a good idea to have both sip show channels and 
show channels sip.... having two, three or even four ways to do the same 
thing would confuse/cripple the learning curve... * would turn into a 
microsoft mentality where there are dozens of ways to 
configure/reconfigure some of their products...  word, for example, can 
be configured with or without the tool bars and then you can configure 
hot-keys...  in fact, you can configure some products so that someone 
who learns it with a hacked config, could not possibly use the original 
stock config...  sorry to go on about this but it is one of my hot 
buttons... 
daveC

Dovid B wrote:
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Steve Edwards" <asterisk.org at sedwards.com>
> To: "Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion" 
> <asterisk-users at lists.digium.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 5:43 AM
> Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Upgrade to Asterisk 1.4 - it's one year's old!
>
>
>   
>> On Sat, 15 Dec 2007, Johansson Olle E wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> I wonder if there are any major obstacles for upgrading.
>>>       
>> How about the change from a bad command line interface to a really bad
>> command line interface?
>>
>> I mean, Seriously? (in a Grey's Anatomy kind of way...)
>>
>> The old syntax was inconsistent -- "show manager command" vs "sip show
>> channels" and just plain bad -- for example "sip reload" should have been
>> "reload sip."
>>
>> The new syntax continues down the noun-verb path instead of correcting
>> itself and using verb-noun like most other applications (MySQL, GDB,
>> Oracle, etc.)
>>
>> Then, just to make it worse, now I have to learn which commands somebody
>> (arbitrarily) decided are "core" and which are not -- for what benefit?
>> Certainly doesn't make MY job easier!
>>
>> Approach the command line like a noob. I want Asterisk to show me
>> something so I'll start the command line with "show." I'm not quite sure
>> what I'm doing, so I'll press <TAB> to see what I can show. Oh, "channel"
>> looks like what I want. Hmm, too much. Maybe I should have qualified what
>> kind of channel I'm looking for BEFORE the word "channel."
>>
>> Here's a suggestion -- stop thinking like a parser and start thinking like
>> a person :)
>>
>> Which makes more sense (at least in English)?
>>
>>  1) show black dogs -- show sip channels
>>  2) black show dogs -- sip show channels
>>  3) dogs black show -- channels sip show
>>  4) show dogs black -- show channels sip
>>  5) black dogs show -- sip channels show
>>  6) dogs show black -- channels show sip
>>
>> Is it too late to fix this for 1.6?
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>     
>
> I think as many people have pointed out they are used to a lot of commands 
> out there so changing it yet again would make more people unhappy. But maybe 
> asterisk can have both. Why not sip show channels for the old timers and 
> show channels sip or show sip channels for the n00b's. Why shouldn't 
> asterisk have both options ? 
>
>
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