[Asterisk-Users] Re : Calling card platform

Thu Mar 3 08:44:43 MST 2005

I do not recall calling anyone a cheat or a fraud. We have a saying
where i am from, something about a burglar, and a hat, and fire. I'll
leave it at that.

As for your last question, i can't answer that.

-yair

On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 10:26:05 -0500, Kanuri, Seshu (Company IT)
<Seshu.Kanuri at morganstanley.com> wrote:
> Yair,
> 
> I have been dealing with Amarfone as well as Ehsanul Karim for an year
> now and I never had any issue with them. Both were and have been
> customers.
> 
> Ehsan is an honest individual. He might have omitted mentioning that he
> worked for Amarphone in the past. It does not make him a cheat or a
> fraud.
> 
> I recommend IBM Servers and Citibank Checking Account as the best in
> their products and services, Servers and Banking. I worked for both of
> them in the past and I knew them.
> 
> Am I a dishonest person?
> 
> Seshu Kanuri
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com
> [mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Yair Hakak
> Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 9:51 AM
> To: M. Ehsanul Karim; asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
> Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re : Calling card platform
> 
> It is fine to tout your own products. we call that marketing.
> 
> However, anyone who claims that they can endorse a product and not
> mention that they worked for the manufacturer 5 months ago, and thinks
> this is an ethical thing to do, is not worth my time. Once again, i
> don't care about the platform. It's probably a very good platform.
> Your recommendation does not change anything about the platform, but it
> does call your integrity as a recommender into question.
> 
> This conversation is over.
> 
> -yair
> 
> On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 20:41:55 +0600, M. Ehsanul Karim <e.karim at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > I am a customer and I am paying them every month. I was giving out my
> > personal opinions about the soft . What's so wrong with that if I had
> > not said that I worked with this company 5 months ago ? Don't you have
> 
> > your eyes and judgements before you can buy the product ? So as you
> > know I wokred with them it makes me a fraud or changes the whole
> > software?
> >
> > Please tell me the impact of knowing I worked with them 5 months ago ?
> > I think what you have done so far is not decent enough . You have the
> > right the say anything but which are fact and you know it to be. It is
> 
> > something if I say you have your own platform and you are jealous to
> > let know others about a good platform.
> >
> > I think all the people here are matured enough to get their judgements
> 
> > on the product rather than jsut ordering it because I said so.
> >
> >
> > Ehsanul Karim
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 14:31:56 +0200, Yair Hakak <yhakak at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > I will make this as clear as i possibly can.
> > >
> > > 1. i am not "very smart from others." I am, however, a big fan of
> honesty.
> > >
> > > 2. You WERE NOT honest enough to say what you do. I don't care if
> > > you were or are a freelancer, or the CEO, or if they paid you in
> > > cows instead of money. You have or had a relationship with the
> > > company. You did not mention this. In fact, you painted yourself as
> > > a customer, which you might be, but it's not exactly an unbiased
> > > recommendation if you used to work there.
> > >
> > > 3. You can flame me all you want. Evidently i have a "fraudulent
> > > mentality" so it's OK.
> > >
> > > 4. I'm taking the pain: what is the matter? Were you planning a
> > > second email to inform us of your association with the company, did
> > > you assume we just all knew you had such an association, did you
> > > think it's not relevant?
> > >
> > > 5. i want to make it clear I know absolutely nothing about this
> > > product. It might be really great. Please keep in mind that my anger
> 
> > > is at the poster and not the company.
> > >
> > > -yair
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 18:21:40 +0600, M. Ehsanul Karim
> <e.karim at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Yair,
> > > >       I am honest enough to say what I do , Don't jump into
> > > > something you don't know...I was working there for a while and
> > > > that was months ago and  it was a part of my freelance
> contribution.
> > > >
> > > >    Don't think others to have same kind fruadelent mentality that
> > > > you have.SO next time before proving yourself very smart from
> > > > others take the pain to ask what is the matter.
> > > >
> > > > Ehsan
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 14:09:06 +0200, Yair Hakak <yhakak at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > > > See, here's the problem when you misrepresent yourself...the web
> 
> > > > > is so easy to search that any idiot like me can discover what
> you're doing.
> > > > >
> > > > > http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/2004-September/
> > > > > 064464.html
> > > > >
> > > > > 'nuff said.
> > > > >
> > > > > i'm sure their support is awesome. i'm sure it doesn't cost you
> > > > > a lot of money. I'm sure you're very fond of your own product.
> > > > > I'm also sure if you're you, then support is really awesome
> > > > > because you never have to worry about not getting back to
> yourself.
> > > > >
> > > > > -yair
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 17:46:23 +0600, M. Ehsanul Karim
> <e.karim at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > We are using a platform from AmarFone Inc. It great full
> > > > > > featured , everything you want to run a calling card and does
> > > > > > not cost your a lot of money. Their support is awesome. You
> > > > > > can contact them at sales at amarfone.com.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ehsanul Karim
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