[Asterisk-Users] Re : Calling card platform

Thu Mar 3 08:26:05 MST 2005

Yair,

I have been dealing with Amarfone as well as Ehsanul Karim for an year
now and I never had any issue with them. Both were and have been
customers. 

Ehsan is an honest individual. He might have omitted mentioning that he
worked for Amarphone in the past. It does not make him a cheat or a
fraud.

I recommend IBM Servers and Citibank Checking Account as the best in
their products and services, Servers and Banking. I worked for both of
them in the past and I knew them. 

Am I a dishonest person?

Seshu Kanuri

-----Original Message-----
From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Yair Hakak
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 9:51 AM
To: M. Ehsanul Karim; asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re : Calling card platform

It is fine to tout your own products. we call that marketing. 

However, anyone who claims that they can endorse a product and not
mention that they worked for the manufacturer 5 months ago, and thinks
this is an ethical thing to do, is not worth my time. Once again, i
don't care about the platform. It's probably a very good platform.
Your recommendation does not change anything about the platform, but it
does call your integrity as a recommender into question.

This conversation is over.

-yair

On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 20:41:55 +0600, M. Ehsanul Karim <e.karim at gmail.com>
wrote:
> I am a customer and I am paying them every month. I was giving out my 
> personal opinions about the soft . What's so wrong with that if I had 
> not said that I worked with this company 5 months ago ? Don't you have

> your eyes and judgements before you can buy the product ? So as you 
> know I wokred with them it makes me a fraud or changes the whole 
> software?
> 
> Please tell me the impact of knowing I worked with them 5 months ago ?
> I think what you have done so far is not decent enough . You have the 
> right the say anything but which are fact and you know it to be. It is

> something if I say you have your own platform and you are jealous to 
> let know others about a good platform.
> 
> I think all the people here are matured enough to get their judgements

> on the product rather than jsut ordering it because I said so.
> 
> 
> Ehsanul Karim
> 
> 
> On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 14:31:56 +0200, Yair Hakak <yhakak at gmail.com>
wrote:
> > I will make this as clear as i possibly can.
> >
> > 1. i am not "very smart from others." I am, however, a big fan of
honesty.
> >
> > 2. You WERE NOT honest enough to say what you do. I don't care if 
> > you were or are a freelancer, or the CEO, or if they paid you in 
> > cows instead of money. You have or had a relationship with the 
> > company. You did not mention this. In fact, you painted yourself as 
> > a customer, which you might be, but it's not exactly an unbiased 
> > recommendation if you used to work there.
> >
> > 3. You can flame me all you want. Evidently i have a "fraudulent 
> > mentality" so it's OK.
> >
> > 4. I'm taking the pain: what is the matter? Were you planning a 
> > second email to inform us of your association with the company, did 
> > you assume we just all knew you had such an association, did you 
> > think it's not relevant?
> >
> > 5. i want to make it clear I know absolutely nothing about this 
> > product. It might be really great. Please keep in mind that my anger

> > is at the poster and not the company.
> >
> > -yair
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 18:21:40 +0600, M. Ehsanul Karim
<e.karim at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Yair,
> > >       I am honest enough to say what I do , Don't jump into 
> > > something you don't know...I was working there for a while and 
> > > that was months ago and  it was a part of my freelance
contribution.
> > >
> > >    Don't think others to have same kind fruadelent mentality that 
> > > you have.SO next time before proving yourself very smart from 
> > > others take the pain to ask what is the matter.
> > >
> > > Ehsan
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 14:09:06 +0200, Yair Hakak <yhakak at gmail.com>
wrote:
> > > > See, here's the problem when you misrepresent yourself...the web

> > > > is so easy to search that any idiot like me can discover what
you're doing.
> > > >
> > > > http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/2004-September/
> > > > 064464.html
> > > >
> > > > 'nuff said.
> > > >
> > > > i'm sure their support is awesome. i'm sure it doesn't cost you 
> > > > a lot of money. I'm sure you're very fond of your own product. 
> > > > I'm also sure if you're you, then support is really awesome 
> > > > because you never have to worry about not getting back to
yourself.
> > > >
> > > > -yair
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 17:46:23 +0600, M. Ehsanul Karim
<e.karim at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > We are using a platform from AmarFone Inc. It great full 
> > > > > featured , everything you want to run a calling card and does 
> > > > > not cost your a lot of money. Their support is awesome. You 
> > > > > can contact them at sales at amarfone.com.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ehsanul Karim
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