[Asterisk-Users] Becoming a VOIP provider

Wed Jan 19 14:53:56 MST 2005

Be careful of LI requirements in Australia.

You MAY be able to put the onus for this on your upstream (PRI/IMT)
provider, but if you have many, this could be messy.

Best bet would be to have a solution yourself... when I was looking into
this the good news was that the enforcement agencies (which at last
count was around 47, any of whom could hit you for their own real-time
feed of the conversation) were considering taking the VoIP feed (RTP)
and the logs of the signaling. (Things may have changed, your mileage
may vary, yada, yada, yada).

Also, after a little kiddy died of an asthma attack in rural Victoria
because Telstra (the lazy @#$@#$  - I digress) hadn't fixed their phone,
lifeline services (E911 in the US) are more and more important to have
nailed.. you don't want that on your conscience (your service not
working causing harm to someone) nor would your business appreciate the
lawsuits.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-
> bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Ed Robbins
> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 2:02 PM
> To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
> Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Becoming a VOIP provider
> 
> Ty Carter wrote:
> 
> >Ed:
> >
> >I think you must have some bad information here.....VoIP is an
Information
> >service and not subject to CALEA regulations.....
> >
> >
> >
> 
> Whether it's a subject to those regulations or not I still know first
> hand it's a big issue with broadband voip providers.  I work for a
> company that develops VoiP for the broadband market and it's something
> we had to develop for our customers.  I don't know all the details of
it
> and what is going on behind the scenes in terms of regulations but my
> thinking is that voip providers have to tie into the PSTN somewhere
and
> the FCC can most likely tap into(no pun intended), meaning require you
> meet the guidlines put forth in CALEA, from that legal point of view.
I
> had never thought about this before but I should talk to my buddy who
> got a CLEC a few years ago, I'm wondering if there is something in
there
> that spells it out.
> 
> Ed
> 
> >According to the calea website:
> >
> >In a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking FCC 02-42 released on February 15,
2002,
> >the FCC initiated a proceeding to establish rules and regulations
regarding
> >the classification of "wireline broadband Internet access" under the
> >Telecommunications Act. Digital Subscriber Line (DSL) service is an
example
> >of wireline broadband Internet access. In this document, the FCC
> >"tentatively" decided that wireline broadband Internet access is an
> >"information service."
> >
> >In a Declaratory Ruling and Notice of Proposed Rulemaking FCC 02-77
released
> >on March 15, 2002, the FCC made a "declaratory ruling" that cable
modem
> >service (Internet access through cable TV lines) is an "information
service"
> >under the Telecommunication Act and initiated a proceeding to
establish
> >rules and regulations based on that finding.
> >
> >Therefore, the FCC's pending wireline broadband Internet access
proceeding
> >is CC Docket Nos. 02-33, 95-20, and 98-10 and the cable modem
broadband
> >Internet access proceeding is CS Docket No. 02-52 (collectively the
"FCC
> >Broadband Proceedings").
> >
> >It should be noted that the FCC is not primarily focusing on CALEA in
these
> >proceedings, rather its emphasis is on the economic and policy
concerns
> >involved in regulation of these services under the Communications
Act.
> >However, since CALEA exempts "information service" from the
surveillance
> >capability requirements of Section 103, these FCC decisions have the
> >potential to exclude broadband DSL and cable modem service from CALEA
> >compliance.
> >
> >The FBI filed the following comments in the Broadband
> >
> >
> >
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com
> >>[mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of
> >>Ed Robbins
> >>Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 3:19 PM
> >>To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
> >>Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Becoming a VOIP provider
> >>
> >>Manjit Riat wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>That was a really nice description... Can you do 1-14 and I'll do
15
> >>>and 16??
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Just kiddin.
> >>>
> >>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>From: Ty Carter [mailto:tmcarter at ultrastat.com]
> >>>Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 10:58 AM
> >>>To: nihal at claim.md; 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial
> >>>Discussion'
> >>>Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Becoming a VOIP provider
> >>>
> >>>1.  You must have some type of business model / plan 2.  Be well
> >>>capitalized, starting out is going to be a cash draining
experience.
> >>>3.  Have access to (U.S.) PRI or Channelized T1 and High
> >>>
> >>>
> >>speed Internet
> >>
> >>
> >>>connection 4.  For U.S. it always helps on the bottom line
> >>>
> >>>
> >>if you're a
> >>
> >>
> >>>CLEC 5.  Have a test server, if you want to play in the enterprise
> >>>market, buy a test 1U server and a 1 T1 PRI card 6.  Forumlate your
> >>>POPS 7.  Get a ANCP Code from Telcordia, then apply for a
> >>>
> >>>
> >>CIC, Part A
> >>
> >>
> >>>code (commly reffered to as a PIC code (10-10-987) 8.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>Arrange for a LD
> >>
> >>
> >>>carrier, preferabably one that can terminate and originate
> >>>
> >>>
> >>via SIP, IAX
> >>
> >>
> >>>or IP 9.  Arrange for PSAP integration/handoff (for 911) 10.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>Have your
> >>
> >>
> >>>lawyer establish your Terms of Service and disclose to your clients
> >>>about the 911 availability and have them sign off on this.
> >>>11. When all of the above is satisified and working,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>formulate a beta
> >>
> >>
> >>>pool of clients, a couple of small businesses and a few
residentials
> >>>12. Give them cutrate service for testing 13. Once your have
> >>>
> >>>
> >>your beta
> >>
> >>
> >>>trials, put it into production and let the money start flowing.
> >>>14. Put in a HP Blade server rack, and start provisioning
> >>>
> >>>
> >>asterisk like
> >>
> >>
> >>>crazy.
> >>>15. Laugh all the way to the bank
> >>>16. Retire when your 47 and relax on the beach with a
> >>>
> >>>
> >>beautiful woman
> >>
> >>
> >>>in one hand and a cold drink in the other :-)
> >>>
> >>>That is about all there is to it.....
> >>>
> >>>Any more questions?
> >>>
> >>>Ty Carter
> >>>Strategic Network Consultants, Inc.
> >>>524 East 9th Street
> >>>Washington, NC  27889
> >>>tmcarter at ultrastat.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>P.S.  The last few items are just a joke.. Please, list,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>don't bombard
> >>
> >>
> >>>me with flames about hardware vendors or laughing on the way to the
> >>>bank.  This is just a 30,000 ft overview.  If you want specifics,
> >>>contact me off list and I will try and help you.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>I don't know applicability in Australia, but in the US don't
> >>forget about CALEA.  Seems like that is a big issue for a lot
> >>of providers to come to terms with.
> >>
> >>Ed
> >>
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