[Asterisk-Users] Service contract for * in NYC area

[C F]

Instead of realizing and admiting you are wrong you went ahead and
added lies to you assumptions.
If you would look thru the lists you will see that I keep giving code
examples as well as solutions to problems. I know asterisk as well as
I know artisoft (if not better). I sell both, for some clients
artisoft is better yet for others * is. Yet the customers sometimes
just want the cheaper solution.
In our case I'm making money either way. The setup would either way
(artisoft or *) be mine, the service contract will not be mine in
either case, even if I do artisoft I'll have to get them a local
service contract, I have however never had where someone asked for a
local service contract for * and I couldn't take it because of the
fact that I'm not local. As well that in this case it was a
determining factor for my client in taking * or not.


On Mon, 03 Jan 2005 13:01:16 -0500, Karl Brose <khb at brose.com> wrote:
> Thank you , Bruno.
> Your example is the proper way.
> 
> The real circumstances are apparent now, but I could be wrong, but will
> take that one
> chance.  The deception is quite clear, he is going to service this
> customer anyhow, so the
> distance wasn't the issue.  The real issue is likely that he was trying
> to sell the customer his
> proprietary solution and was asked back, can't we run Asterisk, it's a
> lot cheaper. In danger
> of loosing his sale, he thought he can get one of the * people on the
> list to do the expert work
> work for him.
> 
> Brian:  Regarding slander...
> Your comment is totally unqualified,  I was obviously involved, and
> there is nothing slanderous
> about my comments. I you don't have anything to say of substance don't
> say anything, there is
> already enough garbage floating around. Are you the one to protect us
> from slander?
> 
> Finally, if deception and dishonesty are more noble than the exposure
> thereof, I will take on
> that challenge anytime.
> People on this list generally either seek help in earnest, or provide it
> in great amplitude in a
> remarkably unselfish fashion. There is no reason to seek assistance in
> disguise and convoluted intent.
> The displayed attitude is exactly what ruined the trust and
> relationships in the Usenet system (and Internet)
> many, many years ago, too long ago for most here to remember, likely.  I
> suggest exposure of
> unsuitable practices is almost all we can do to clean this business of
> unsuitable participants.
> This business is finally picking up steam and we don't need unqualified
> people selling solutions
> they can't support or implement properly or honestly. I would gladly
> seek sincere help from
> others, if I think I can't service a customer, or else rather decline
> the opportunity.
> 
> That said, I waisted enough of my time on this, which could have been
> spent more constructively
> with people that have real needs.
> 
> Karl Brose
> 
> 
> Bruno Hertz wrote:
> 
> >On Mon, 2005-01-03 at 09:18 -0500, C F wrote:
> >
> >
> >>As for the term contracted that I have been using, thats because I
> >>HAVE BEEN CONTRACTED, I just don't have a commitment for asterisk, if
> >>they don't take asterisk I am installing for them Artisoft
> >>Tellevantage. I am a authorized reseller for Artisoft. Since Asterisk
> >>is much cheaper they wanted to know if they can get support in the
> >>local area. But in any case the contract is mine for the PBX.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Good for you, although it makes your convoluted approach to this matter
> >even more incomprehensible. Anyway, as I myself feel increasingly
> >uncomfortable making this discussion in public I trust we can settle the
> >whole matter as being an unfortunate misunderstanding. Please take my
> >apologies for any wrong accusations, thank you for your well meaning and
> >good luck for your business.
> >
> >Regards, Bruno.
> >
> >
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