[Asterisk-Users] SIP Subscriptions

[Douglas Garstang]

Like what? I'm being very serious and firmly believe in what I said below. What's your issue with it? I'd really like to know, seriously, because I just can't understand why others don't have a problem with this.

	-----Original Message----- 
	From: Steve Totaro [mailto:stotaro at totarotechnologies.com] 
	Sent: Tue 12/20/2005 9:49 PM 
	To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion 
	Cc: 
	Subject: RE: Re: [Asterisk-Users] SIP Subscriptions
	
	

	I hope you are just having a breakdown and aren't normally like this.
	
	
	>
	> Well, I know I will be attacked for saying this, as cursed are those
	who
	> say anything bad about Asterisk, but for an application that is
	> 'enterprise-grade' as Digium tourts, it has several flaws that IMHO
	> disqualify it as 'enterprise-grade'. I mean, really, c'mon... think
	about
	> it... an application that doesn't support the use of a database for
	common
	> location/registration information is hardly 'enterprise-grade'. Just
	off
	> the top of my head, other disqualifiers would be:
	>
	> 1. SIP subscriptions are stored in memory and cleared when you do a
	> 'reload'. So, if you make any configuration changes and 'reload' you
	lose
	> all your BLF lights. People take this stuff for granted and expect it
	to
	> work.
	>
	> 2. No common SIP registration information. Not even using realtime
	with
	> SIP users, which doesn't work, there's no way outside this to share
	> location info between more than one (ie 'enterprise-grade') Asterisk
	> systems.
	>
	> 3. The 'Dial' application seem to have very limited ability to be able
	to
	> determine what SIP response it gets back from a peer. "Not Found",
	"Busy",
	> "Moved" etc. I know Asterisk isn't a SIP proxy, but without the
	ability to
	> check the SIP message status in a dial, it makes redundancy very very
	> difficult. Redundancy is normally an important part of
	'enterprise-grade'.
	> Without this, how do you get upstream redundancy? I have something
	working
	> right now, but it isn't pretty!
	>
	> 4. DNS SRV lookups aren't implemented properly. Another important part
	of
	> redundancy and 'enterprise-grade' software.
	>
	> Before you all go ripping my head off and defecating down my neck for
	> saying anything bad about Asterisk (well CF can, I expect that), this
	is
	> just my opinion based on real world frustrations with Asterisk. These
	are
	> intended to be constructive criticisms.
	>
	> Maybe some from Digium will read this email and it will make a 0.001%
	> contribution towards some of these things being fixed. Oh, and no... I
	> can't switch to another solution. The decision was made above my head
	to
	> go with Asterisk. It's my job to make it do all that
	'enterprise-grade'
	> stuff.
	>
	> Doug.
	>
	>
	>       -----Original Message-----
	>       From: pdhales at optusnet.com.au [mailto:pdhales at optusnet.com.au]
	>       Sent: Tue 12/20/2005 8:02 PM
	>       To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
	>       Cc:
	>       Subject: Re: Re: [Asterisk-Users] SIP Subscriptions
	>
	>
	>
	>       > C F <shmaltz at gmail.com> wrote:
	>       >
	>       > On 12/20/05, Douglas Garstang <dgarstang at oneeighty.com> wrote:
	>       > > Digium needs people like me, if they read this list that is.
	> They sure
	>       > don't seem to be able to make real-world functionality
	decisions
	> on
	>       > their own.
	>       > >
	>       >
	>       > You are so right, how did we do without you the last few
	>       > years???????????
	>
	>       By living on baked beans and cabbage.
	>
	>       PaulH
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