[Asterisk-Users] SIP Subscriptions

[Douglas Garstang]

I respectfully disagree that my complaints are idle. Digium as 'Digium™ is the creator and primary developer of Asterisk™, ' state that it is 'enterprise-grade '. I feel that the things I have complained about disqualify it as being enterprise-grade. That's not idle. If it's enterprise-grade, these things should be supported and should work. I realise that Digium is saying the business edition is enterprise grade, but if you look at it from a functionality perspective, business edition at about version 1.0.9, which has even _less_ features than 1.2.1.
 
Oh, and no I haven't looked at the realtime code. Firstly because digium have told me it would take a single person the better part of a year to fix, and secondly I'm not a software developer (not in C anyway). Not everyone who uses open source code is a software engineer. Yes, I did suggest it to Digium directly.... which is when they mentioned it would take a year or so to fix.

	-----Original Message----- 
	From: Aaron Daniel [mailto:amdtech at shsu.edu] 
	Sent: Tue 12/20/2005 9:35 PM 
	To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion 
	Cc: 
	Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] SIP Subscriptions
	
	

	Your complaints are idle, because you provide no real solution to the 
	problem, other than "digium needs better qa" and various other 
	comments about how crappy asterisk is.  I've been working with 
	asterisk for 8-9 months now, have been utterly pissed off at the 
	system for weeks, but it takes patience and work.  And this list has 
	provided much support in the time I've spent working on our system, 
	because most people on here have provided a situation they're in, and 
	the solutions that follow are usually pretty good (and some are 
	pretty neat).  People aren't going to want to help if you 
	continuously post about your distaste for the product without any 
	real solution.
	
	Seriously though, have you looked through the realtime code to see if 
	there's anything you can do to make it better?  Have you looked at 
	the subscription functions to see if there's anything in there you 
	can work on to add a remove?  Or even suggest it be worked on to 
	people with possibly more time or skills on the project?
	
	Without those, I'd definitely say your complaints are idle.
	
	On Dec 20, 2005, at 10:21 PM, Douglas Garstang wrote:
	
	> Since when where you in a position to come to the conclusion that 
	> my complaints are idle? My complains and questions are valid, just 
	> like anyone else's.
	>
	>       -----Original Message-----
	>       From: Aaron Daniel [mailto:amdtech at shsu.edu]
	>       Sent: Tue 12/20/2005 9:08 PM
	>       To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
	>       Cc:
	>       Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] SIP Subscriptions
	>      
	>      
	>
	>       This email is a perfect example.
	>      
	>       "Your issue with that is...?"
	>      
	>       Your sarcastic attitude is grating on a lot of people's nerves, which
	>       is what his email was about.  If you can't put in constructive
	>       criticism with a better attitude and less "asterisk sucks", then go
	>       somewhere else with your complaints.  If you don't like the product,
	>       fix it, or don't use it, but quit annoying everyone else with your
	>       idle complaints because your system isn't working.
	>      
	>       Aaron
	>      
	>       On Dec 20, 2005, at 9:52 PM, Douglas Garstang wrote:
	>      
	>       > Seems someone has some anger management issues. As I just stated in
	>       > a previous post, it seems you have issues with me asking valid
	>       > questions. I'm not sure why that is. The long email you rattled off
	>       > with all my questions where quite valid. Your issue with that 
	> is.....?
	>       >
	>       >       -----Original Message-----
	>       >       From: C F [mailto:shmaltz at gmail.com]
	>       >       Sent: Tue 12/20/2005 7:33 PM
	>       >       To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
	>       >       Cc:
	>       >       Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] SIP Subscriptions
	>       >
	>       >
	>       >
	>       >       On 12/20/05, Douglas Garstang <dgarstang at oneeighty.com> 
	> wrote:
	>       >       > I don't think the bounties are worth the costs asociated 
	> with
	>       > contracts, legal fees, international boundaries etc.
	>       >
	>       >       Right, Avaya is.
	>       >
	>       >       This guy is a Fuc*ing retard.
	>       >       Douglas, did you see a doc the last few days???????????
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