[Asterisk-Users] Cisco 7905G

[Wiley E. Siler]

A completely valid point you make... 

Just remember to multiply that 8 dollars times the number of phones
times the number of years you need to have them in service.... 
Extend that to the other Cisco items you need to maintain and purchase
and the costs keeps rising....
Mine is just a simple observation regarding the costs of being a Cisco
customer. 

Like I said, it is about preference and budgeting...
Even if I only save $300 dollars a year from using alternatives to Cisco
in my enterpise (switches, firewalls, phones, etc), it is still $300.
Usually, the $ saved from finding comparable products at lower prices
also benefit my overall budget since Cisco tends to be a premium price.

Like I said... I won't disparage Cisco products in any way.  They are
barring none, some of the best out there.
I just prefer a different licensing model for my enterprise and find
that I can get comparable performance by alternatives.
If anyone has the budget and desire, they would be well served by any
Cisco product they purchase.

It is just not my choice...  Thus my disclaimer in the footer of the
last post.

Cheers,
Wiley




-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Loftis [mailto:mloftis at wgops.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 3:47 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Cisco 7905G

I'm pretty sure SMARTnet on the VoIP phones is like
$8/phone/year....Most orgs spend more than that per person on
electricity for CRTs.

--On Tuesday, September 21, 2004 15:25 -0700 "Wiley E. Siler" 
<wsiler at e2020inc.com> wrote:

> See my post of a few moments ago and you have hit on the exact reason 
> I will not use Cisco beyond my firewall (a purchase you will never 
> regret if you need a good firewall).  Cisco makes arguably some of (if

> not
> totally) the best equipment out there. I just have one problem.
>
> Their licensing model is such that you can buy their product, at a 
> premium price too mind you, ant then you have to pay MUCH extra for a 
> support contract just to get images and just about everything else you

> need.  That lead me to alternatives.  Polycom, SNOM, Grandstream are 
> just a few and each good based upon certain criteria (price vs. looks 
> vs. performance, etc, etc).
>
> My personal choice is Polycom.  Polycom IP300 phones are excellent if 
> you do not need speaker phone.  IP500 is excellent with all the 
> features you may want.  Go to the IP600 and you get a minibrowser 
> though the benefit is arguable.  My IP500s perform extremely well and 
> the featureset is excellent.
>
> As before, phone choice is very preferential and what I like may be 
> totally hated by someone else.  However, in my opinion, the 
> dollar/performance/presentation ration of these phones is excellent.
> Not to mention that the SIP images are available online as released 
> instead of regulated the same way Cisco is.  I just cannot bring 
> myself to pay the Cisco premium for hardware then have to give them 
> even more money for the things I need to make THEIR hardware work 
> right.  That would just seems like Cisco is sticking it to me too
much...
>
> $0.02
>
> Wiley
>
> PS.  I have done my best to express that this is MY preference so be 
> sure to weight all the opinions you find.  Many have extremely good 
> results using the Cisco phones and can justify the cost thusly.  My 
> enterprise just isn't built on that large a budget.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gunnar Andersson [mailto:gunnar at jmg.se]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 2:58 PM
> To: Asterisk-Users at lists.digium.com
> Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Cisco 7905G
>
> Hi All
>
> Just received my first 7905G from a distributer here in Sweden.
> According to the spec this phone should be able to use SIP. Now I been

> looking on Ciscos home pages for several hours trying to find a "SIP 
> image" for this phone.
> No luck at all, need special access to be able to download software to

> this phone. Is it the fact, that I have to pay for a contract of some 
> kind to be able to use this phone with SIP and *.
> This was the first product we bought from Cisco... and maybe the last.
>
> rgds
>
> Gunnar Andersson
>
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