[Asterisk-Users] Mitel 5010

slwatts at winckworths.co.uk slwatts at winckworths.co.uk
Wed Sep 1 08:11:17 MST 2004


Fair enough, The MItel is not the most expensive VOIP solution, but as you 
say - the reason Asterisk is so attractive is its effectively free and you 
are not locked to a single vendor or support channel.

I have only just started looking at Asterisk, I like it a lot, 
particularly its openness - the Mitel solution is an almost watertight 
black box :-(

I would still like to use the 5220's with asterisk (they cost about the 
same for us as the cisco 7960's) but are smaller, neater and look more 
like a phone (surprisingly!)

I will get a packet sniffer on one in a minute....

Sam

Colin Anderson <ColinA at landmarkmasterbuilder.com> wrote on 01/09/2004 
15:24:50:

> Ditto that. On a Mitel box, A Service Contract Is Your Friend and a Good 

> Interconnect Is Your Best Friend. Our 3300 was loosing conn w/ the 
phones and 
> loosing sync with our PRI. Our interconnect blamed everything from the 
LAN to 
> sunspots except the 3300. Because we had a service contract, I insisted 
that 
> the NSU be replaced, which they did grudgingly and lo! problems ceased. 
~3k 
> calls / day from 80 users for 3 years so far - no problems. 
>  
> FWIW, I'm just using QOS. We haven't had any issues with non - VLAN 
config. 
> However, the reason I'm on this list in the first place is because we 
are 
> planning to replace the 3300 with * :-) and the reason is simply because 
the 
> Mitel box is too expensive $$. A 5020 costs us $1200 Cdn. My boss, who 
> approved the system in the first place, likes to tease me and say: "Tell 
me 
> again why we moved away from a Meridian One?"
>  
> On topic: The Ipera (the 3300's predecessor) supported SIP, as well as 
the 
> new, I think it's called 3010 which is throttled to 25 users. Mitel made 
a 
> stupid decision to drop SIP for the 3300 to try to lock in users with 
their 
> own proporietary protocol which I have analyzed and it's part IP and 
part CDS 
> (Cisco Discovery, like SNMP). Because the CDS part is Layer - 2 - 
ish it's 
> hard to route; my BSD box routes it OK but a Seawall kind of config 
won't. Grrrr....
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: slwatts at winckworths.co.uk [mailto:slwatts at winckworths.co.uk]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 7:20 AM
> To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
> Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Mitel 5010
> 
> I am very surprised that you have had problems with a mitel 3300ICP. We 
have 
> had one installed here for the past year or so and it is a very good 
system. 
> We did suffer the occaisonal crash and then our system was wiped out by 
a 
> lightning strike, we had a replacement controller in place and fully 
working 
> within 3 hours. Since then we have had absolutely no crashes at all. 
> 
> You do need to setup the 3300ICP properly - incorrect configuration can 
cause 
> you serious nightmares, but then it is a very flexible system. It also 
seems 
> to be very particular about your network setup. Dont even think about 
trying 
> to run it over a data network that does not have vlans or QOS. 
> 
> The early software versions were pretty poor, however version 4 is much 
better
> and we will soon be upgrading to version 5 so if you want to know how 
that 
> fares let me know. 
> 
> Their teleworker solution is particularly impressive, although I wish 
they 
> would release SIP support for their phones and controllers. 
> 
> Anyone know of a project to bring minet to asterisk? 
> 
> Sam 
> 
> Stephen Stull <sstull at gmail.com> wrote on 01/09/2004 13:33:59:
> 
> > Is this the 3300IP system?  Those systems *can* be quite good, but 
> > need to be up to the latest revision and require a bit of tuning.  I'd 

> > be interested in your finds regardless and could probably experiment 
> > with a 5005, 5010 or even the higher-end ones. 
> > 
> > I'll ask a former co-worker if I can borrow one for testing. 
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