[Asterisk-Users] eBay Sip Phone Scam.

Jon Pounder JonP at inline.net
Thu Oct 2 10:08:58 MST 2003 

Can someone post their experiences with these phones together with 
asterisk, and give an impartial listing of what features they find 
indispensible, and others that are a pain to have missing.

What codec configurations do people use these phones in currently with 
asterisk ?

Can someone clarify the transfer questions, and any other related topics as 
well please. For example do they support callwaiting callerid ? (either in 
or out of band in conjunction with asterisk ?)


At 10:52 AM 10/2/2003 -0600, you wrote:
>Grandstream 102D  won't be available until December,
>at the earliest.
>
>I have 101's in stock now and can ship same day as
>the order is funded.
>
>102 (not the D model) are on backorder and I expect
>inventory by the end of next week.
>
>Transfering and other functions are really going to be
>a matter of what your SIP server does, feature wise.
>
>GAPS is not free.  It starts at $3000 and goes up to 18,000
>
>We have built our own system that we use internally to
>configure phones for our customers.
>
>
>
>On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 12:14:42PM -0400, costas  wrote:
> > Thanks! Do you have the 102D. Thats what started this.
> > How fast can you ship any of the phones?
> >
> > Also I have question on the phones.
> >
> > 1) If you have 2 callers can you transfer  one of them, or you can only 
> transfer if you have the second line available?
> >
> > 2) Automated Provisioning System (GAPS). Free?
> >
> >
> > ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> > From: " John Brown (CV)" <jmbrown at chagresventures.com>
> > Reply-To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
> > Date:  Thu, 2 Oct 2003 09:06:00 -0600
> >
> > >
> > >Hi Josh, Costas, Adam, et all
> > >
> > >We do sell the phones.
> > >
> > >http://www.chagres.net/products/voip/phones.html
> > >
> > >and digium cards
> > >
> > >http://www.chagres.net/products/voip/cards.html
> > >
> > >plus new things real soon :)
> > >
> > >and if anyone ever has a problem, go yell at me
> > >and I'll try like crazy to fix it.
> > >
> > >john brown, ceo
> > >chagres technologies, inc
> > >
> > >ps:  Chagres.com (Chagres River) is where our company
> > >got its name from.  I used to live there ;)
> > >
> > >
> > >On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 02:21:55PM +0200, Low, Adam wrote:
> > >> Josh,
> > >>
> > >> Pls can you confirm that URL, www.chagres.com doesn't seem to 
> mention the sale of any Grandstream phones ....
> > >>
> > >> Adam
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Josh Roberson
> > >> To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
> > >> Sent: 02/10/03 13:04
> > >> Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] eBay Sip Phone Scam.
> > >>
> > >> Actually, had you taken the time to READ the auction details, He says
> > >> (direct copy/paste from auction)
> > >>
> > >> -----Begin Copy/Paste-----
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Flash Based OS
> > >>
> > >> Easy to install and manage,
> > >> Cost effective,
> > >> Easy to use - Friendly GUI for 1st time user,
> > >> Easy to learn - User's guide and on-line tutorial
> > >>
> > >> Big information and management LCD blue back light
> > >> User friendly keypad
> > >> Universal AC/DC adapter
> > >> Ergonomic design
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> 25-button keypad
> > >> 12-digit caller ID LCD
> > >> Universal Switching Power Adaptor
> > >> Input: 100-240VAC
> > >> Output: +5VDC, 400mA,
> > >>  1. Auto-sensing 10/100 Base-TX Ethernet Port
> > >> 2.UL/CE/FCC
> > >> 3.Power Supply : Universal 90 ~ 264V
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Support all major Network Operating Systems (Windows, MAC, Linux/Unix)
> > >>
> > >> Web-Based Management
> > >>
> > >> TCP/IP Configuration with DHCP support
> > >>
> > >> Free Flash Firmware update
> > >>
> > >> No User Licenses
> > >>
> > >> System Restart/ Shutdown
> > >>
> > >> Password Access control
> > >>
> > >> 1 x 10/100Mbps Ethernet Port (RJ-45 Interface)
> > >>
> > >> Support STUN and SIMPLE extension
> > >>
> > >> Interoperable with 3d parties Proxy, Registrar and gateway products
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>  DSP technology for the best voice quality
> > >>
> > >> Support popular vocoders including G.723.1 (5.3K/6.3K), G.729A/B, G.711
> > >> (alaw
> > >> and u-law), G.726 (40K/32K/24K/16K), as well as G.728 (Model 102D)
> > >>
> > >> In and out-off-band DTMF
> > >>
> > >> Support 3-way conferencing (Model 102D), full duplex hands-free
> > >> speakerphone,
> > >> redial, call log, volume control, voice mail with indicator
> > >>
> > >> Support for Layer 2 (802.1Q VLAN, 802.1p) and Layer 3 QoS (ToS,
> > >> DiffServ, MPLS)
> > >>
> > >> Remote software upgrade capability via TFTP
> > >>
> > >> Support Silence Suppression, VAD (Voice Activity Detection), CNG
> > >> (Comfort Noise Generation), Line Echo Cancellation (G.168), and AGC
> > >> (Automatic Gain
> > >> Control)
> > >>
> > >> -----End Copy/Paste-----
> > >>
> > >> Nowhere does he make the claims you're stating.  He DOES, have (Model
> > >> 102D) in one of the descriptions, but that is a direct quote from
> > >> Grandstream's product brochure.
> > >>
> > >> Also, this phone *IS* out on the market.. I own one, and I'm quite happy
> > >> with it.. I will tell you this though:
> > >>
> > >> Go order one from Chagres (http://www.chagres.com).   They are an
> > >> asterisk supporter/user on this list, and the price is MUCH better. ;)
> > >>
> > >> </rant>
> > >>
> > >> --------------------------
> > >> Josh Roberson
> > >> Indigent Networks
> > >> 1.877.677.9647 x1
> > >> twisted at indigent.sytes.net
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: asterisk-users-admin at lists.digium.com
> > >> [mailto:asterisk-users-admin at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of costas
> > >> Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 4:50 AM
> > >> To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
> > >> Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] eBay Sip Phone Scam.
> > >>
> > >> I did shop around. Nowhere does he say the phone is the 101. If you look
> > >> at his ad he says the phone has 102D features and has 16x2 lines and 3
> > >> way conference. The starting price was $90. A reasonable opening price I
> > >> thought. He also does not say the phone is not available until end of
> > >> year.
> > >>
> > >> I only called Grandstream to find out some info on it after I placed the
> > >> Bid. In a way Grandstream is also at fault. Nowhere do they say the
> > >> phone is not available. I was suprised when they told me it wasnt even
> > >> out.  When I sent a message to this thief, he said its for the 101 and
> > >> they are hard to get. Thats why he jacked up the price. He did cancel my
> > >> bid after telling me what a bad person I am for wasting his time.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> > >> From: Andrew Kohlsmith <akohlsmith-asterisk at benshaw.com>
> > >> Reply-To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
> > >> Date:  Wed, 1 Oct 2003 23:32:51 -0400
> > >>
> > >> >> Some guy on eBay is trying to sell the Grandstream Budgetone Phone
> > >> 101 as
> > >> >> the 102D. And to make matters worse he starts the bid at $90.00
> > >> Beware.
> > >> >
> > >> >There's no need to beware -- anyone who doesn't shop around deserves to
> > >> get
> > >> >suckered.
> > >> >
> > >> >Regards,
> > >> >Andrew
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> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Costas Menico
> > >> Meezon Software Corp
> > >> 201-224-8111
> > >> costas at meezon.com
> > >>
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