[Asterisk-Users] eBay Sip Phone Scam.

John Brown (CV) jmbrown at chagresventures.com
Thu Oct 2 09:52:37 MST 2003


Grandstream 102D  won't be available until December,
at the earliest.

I have 101's in stock now and can ship same day as
the order is funded.  

102 (not the D model) are on backorder and I expect 
inventory by the end of next week.

Transfering and other functions are really going to be
a matter of what your SIP server does, feature wise.

GAPS is not free.  It starts at $3000 and goes up to 18,000

We have built our own system that we use internally to
configure phones for our customers.



On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 12:14:42PM -0400, costas  wrote:
> Thanks! Do you have the 102D. Thats what started this.
> How fast can you ship any of the phones?
> 
> Also I have question on the phones.
> 
> 1) If you have 2 callers can you transfer  one of them, or you can only transfer if you have the second line available?
> 
> 2) Automated Provisioning System (GAPS). Free?
> 
> 
> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> From: " John Brown (CV)" <jmbrown at chagresventures.com>
> Reply-To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
> Date:  Thu, 2 Oct 2003 09:06:00 -0600
> 
> >
> >Hi Josh, Costas, Adam, et all
> >
> >We do sell the phones.
> >
> >http://www.chagres.net/products/voip/phones.html
> >
> >and digium cards
> >
> >http://www.chagres.net/products/voip/cards.html 
> >
> >plus new things real soon :)
> >
> >and if anyone ever has a problem, go yell at me
> >and I'll try like crazy to fix it.
> >
> >john brown, ceo
> >chagres technologies, inc
> >
> >ps:  Chagres.com (Chagres River) is where our company
> >got its name from.  I used to live there ;)
> >
> >
> >On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 02:21:55PM +0200, Low, Adam wrote:
> >> Josh,
> >> 
> >> Pls can you confirm that URL, www.chagres.com doesn't seem to mention the sale of any Grandstream phones ....
> >> 
> >> Adam
> >> 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Josh Roberson
> >> To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
> >> Sent: 02/10/03 13:04
> >> Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] eBay Sip Phone Scam.
> >> 
> >> Actually, had you taken the time to READ the auction details, He says
> >> (direct copy/paste from auction)
> >> 
> >> -----Begin Copy/Paste-----
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Flash Based OS
> >> 
> >> Easy to install and manage,
> >> Cost effective,
> >> Easy to use - Friendly GUI for 1st time user,
> >> Easy to learn - User's guide and on-line tutorial
> >> 
> >> Big information and management LCD blue back light 
> >> User friendly keypad 
> >> Universal AC/DC adapter
> >> Ergonomic design
> >>  
> >>  
> >>   
> >>  
> >> 25-button keypad 
> >> 12-digit caller ID LCD 
> >> Universal Switching Power Adaptor 
> >> Input: 100-240VAC 
> >> Output: +5VDC, 400mA, 
> >>  1. Auto-sensing 10/100 Base-TX Ethernet Port
> >> 2.UL/CE/FCC
> >> 3.Power Supply : Universal 90 ~ 264V
> >>   
> >> 
> >> Support all major Network Operating Systems (Windows, MAC, Linux/Unix) 
> >> 
> >> Web-Based Management 
> >> 
> >> TCP/IP Configuration with DHCP support 
> >> 
> >> Free Flash Firmware update 
> >> 
> >> No User Licenses 
> >> 
> >> System Restart/ Shutdown 
> >> 
> >> Password Access control 
> >> 
> >> 1 x 10/100Mbps Ethernet Port (RJ-45 Interface) 
> >> 
> >> Support STUN and SIMPLE extension 
> >> 
> >> Interoperable with 3d parties Proxy, Registrar and gateway products 
> >> 
> >>  
> >> 
> >>  
> >>  DSP technology for the best voice quality 
> >> 
> >> Support popular vocoders including G.723.1 (5.3K/6.3K), G.729A/B, G.711
> >> (alaw 
> >> and u-law), G.726 (40K/32K/24K/16K), as well as G.728 (Model 102D) 
> >> 
> >> In and out-off-band DTMF 
> >> 
> >> Support 3-way conferencing (Model 102D), full duplex hands-free
> >> speakerphone, 
> >> redial, call log, volume control, voice mail with indicator 
> >> 
> >> Support for Layer 2 (802.1Q VLAN, 802.1p) and Layer 3 QoS (ToS,
> >> DiffServ, MPLS) 
> >> 
> >> Remote software upgrade capability via TFTP 
> >> 
> >> Support Silence Suppression, VAD (Voice Activity Detection), CNG
> >> (Comfort Noise Generation), Line Echo Cancellation (G.168), and AGC
> >> (Automatic Gain 
> >> Control) 
> >> 
> >> -----End Copy/Paste-----
> >> 
> >> Nowhere does he make the claims you're stating.  He DOES, have (Model
> >> 102D) in one of the descriptions, but that is a direct quote from
> >> Grandstream's product brochure.  
> >> 
> >> Also, this phone *IS* out on the market.. I own one, and I'm quite happy
> >> with it.. I will tell you this though:
> >> 
> >> Go order one from Chagres (http://www.chagres.com).   They are an
> >> asterisk supporter/user on this list, and the price is MUCH better. ;)
> >> 
> >> </rant>
> >> 
> >> --------------------------
> >> Josh Roberson
> >> Indigent Networks
> >> 1.877.677.9647 x1
> >> twisted at indigent.sytes.net
> >> 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: asterisk-users-admin at lists.digium.com
> >> [mailto:asterisk-users-admin at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of costas 
> >> Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 4:50 AM
> >> To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
> >> Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] eBay Sip Phone Scam.
> >> 
> >> I did shop around. Nowhere does he say the phone is the 101. If you look
> >> at his ad he says the phone has 102D features and has 16x2 lines and 3
> >> way conference. The starting price was $90. A reasonable opening price I
> >> thought. He also does not say the phone is not available until end of
> >> year.
> >> 
> >> I only called Grandstream to find out some info on it after I placed the
> >> Bid. In a way Grandstream is also at fault. Nowhere do they say the
> >> phone is not available. I was suprised when they told me it wasnt even
> >> out.  When I sent a message to this thief, he said its for the 101 and
> >> they are hard to get. Thats why he jacked up the price. He did cancel my
> >> bid after telling me what a bad person I am for wasting his time.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> >> From: Andrew Kohlsmith <akohlsmith-asterisk at benshaw.com>
> >> Reply-To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
> >> Date:  Wed, 1 Oct 2003 23:32:51 -0400
> >> 
> >> >> Some guy on eBay is trying to sell the Grandstream Budgetone Phone
> >> 101 as
> >> >> the 102D. And to make matters worse he starts the bid at $90.00
> >> Beware.
> >> >
> >> >There's no need to beware -- anyone who doesn't shop around deserves to
> >> get 
> >> >suckered.
> >> >
> >> >Regards,
> >> >Andrew
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> >> >
> >> 
> >> --
> >> Costas Menico
> >> Meezon Software Corp
> >> 201-224-8111
> >> costas at meezon.com
> >> 
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> Meezon Software Corp
> 201-224-8111
> costas at meezon.com
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