[asterisk-biz] VOIP ITSP warning

[Tom Lynn]

As a follow up, Voipjet has returned the money via the Paypal resolution
process.  No worries here.  It's probably as Steve says, sloppy password
use.  Paypal gets high marks for flagging the transaction.

On 3/4/07, Steve Totaro <stotaro at asteriskhelpdesk.com> wrote:
>
>  I guess you cannot log in to see what it looks like?
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> It would astonish me that some scammer somehow got your PayPal login
> information unless you use the same password with different providers and
> sites as you do with PayPal.
>
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> I would suggest that everyone change their password to any banking
> institution if it is the same password you use elsewhere.
>
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>
> Lets say for instance, and this is totally an example.  An employee or
> ex-employee of VoipJet decided to rip a few people off.  He has your PayPal
> email and the password you used to sign up at VoipJet, boom he sets up an
> account to receive money and tries all the accounts in the VoipJet database
> on PayPal through a proxy.
>
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> I think there are probably quite a few people that use the same password
> everywhere.  I have seen countless instances of people doing this and could
> be a multi-millionaire if I were a thief.
>
> Thanks,
> Steve Totaro
>
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> *From:* asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com [mailto:
> asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com] *On Behalf Of *Tom Lynn
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 04, 2007 10:06 PM
> *To:* Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
> *Subject:* Re: [asterisk-biz] VOIP ITSP warning
>
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>
> Well, for what it's worth, I came home today after being in the hospital
> for 4 days and found Paypal had closed down my account because of a
> suspicious transaction for $250.
>
> It was marked Voipjet.  So, it's certainly not just Kim that has had this
> happen.  Whether or not it's really Voipjet or someone posing as Voipjet
> remains to be seen.
>
> I'm not posting this to corroborate Kim's experience.  Rather, I want
> people knowing there may be an issue with scammers posing as ITSPs.
>
> Best to all
>
> Tom
>
> On 3/4/07, *Paul* <ast2005 at 9ux.com> wrote:
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> Vicky wrote:
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> >
> > How can someone automatically get money out of ur paypal account
> > without authorization ? I have been using voipjet for around 8 months
> > now . They do have problems with quality sometimes but even though
> > they dont reply to ur mail its always fixed  quickly .
>
>
> Paypal does have a "preapproved vendor" type of thing but the account
> holder has to approve that. It would be used for automatically paying
> things like a monthly hosting fee. Voipjet does not use that method. I
> went most of the way through the "prepay $250" procedure on my voipjet
> account to be sure of that before responding to the OP.
>
> Also note that you can login to paypal and cancel a preapproved vendor
> arrangement anytime before they take more money. It's not like giving
> someone a credit card and then they "accidentally" charge you again
> after you cancel service.
>
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