[asterisk-biz] Amp'd Going the Way of Sun Rocket

[Dean Collins]

Yep totally agree with John.

I think Jack Earl has demonstrated he is on crack. - Voip is definitely
not dead.




Regards,

Dean Collins
Cognation Pty Ltd
dean at cognation.net
+1-212-203-4357 Ph
+61-2-9016-5642 (Sydney in-dial).


-----Original Message-----
From: asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Nicky Smith
Sent: Wednesday, 25 July 2007 10:21 PM
To: 'Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion'
Subject: [asterisk-biz] Amp'd Going the Way of Sun Rocket

Well stated John.
I think this discussion can end now. I am exhaused just reading it.

Nicky Smith
www.carolinanet.com
a profitable ISP/Data Center


-----Original Message-----
From: asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com On Behalf Of John Scully
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 9:09 PM
To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Amp'd Going the Way of Sun Rocket

Well guys, I hate to tell you this, but we are running several hundred
profitable VoIP companies.  profitable for us, profitable for our
clients,
and the only reason they are able to sell service is that they can save
their customers money.

Vonage lost hundreds of millions by running a ton of stupid TV ads, plus
every other possible form of direct to end user advertising.  They spent
$500 in advertising for every sub they signed. Bad business model
Sunrocket
sold service below cost. Bad business model.

Saying that that voip is not a real product is like saying that selling
power and gas is not real because of enron.

There are always well funded, public companies burning cash as fast as
they
can in every new tech area.  They just make it damn difficult for real
businessmen.

John Scully
www.isupportisp.com



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