[asterisk-biz] RE: If money isnot a considerationwho givesthebestSIP termination??

[Mike Hammett]

I just assume that fax over anything but T.38 won't work.  I'd rather assume 
something doesn't work and use something that will vs. sell something that 
may or may not work.

I don't know much about Nick because I believe he was before my time. 
However, I do know that I have customers now.  I do know that next week I 
will be sending a server to New York to fulfill a large project I received a 
signed contract for Wednesday.  Yes, for years I have been working on 
building my ISP on ISP-Bandwidth and ISP-Colo, but why drag some research I 
did in COLLEGE over here when it brings nothing to the discussion?  Do you 
feel your argument isn't strong enough, so you'll attempt to shame me in 
leaving?


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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <alex at pilosoft.com>
To: "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion" 
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Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 2:12 AM
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] RE: If money isnot a considerationwho 
givesthebestSIP termination??


> On Thu, 23 Nov 2006, Mike Hammett wrote:
>
>> Apparently some people take things a little more personal\serious than I
>> do.
> No, some people are just more serious than you are.
>
>> If you have that sort of volume, then you can justify layer two links
>> into your providers' networks.
>>
>> Layer 2 links (whether cross-connects within the carrier hotel or some
>> sort of transport to another location) to your providers is every bit as
>> good as a DS3.  You then peer your AS with their AS.  Since your ASes
>> would be peers, traffic would logically flow over the cross connect.
>> If something happens to that link (assuming you have no other forms of
>> redundancy), you can resort to a public Internet path to save your butt.
>> I am relatively new to all of this, but I'm thinking that if you and
>> your provider have Level(3), they won't dump it off to PCCW just to pick
>> it back up again.  It does not make fiscal or engineering sense.
> But you have no QoS within your provider's network. You do not have
> guaranteed precise timing. Your faxes sent over g.711 may or may not work.
> That is not a problem for TDM.
>
>> I'm sure those that have deployed a network similar to what I described
>> (and am in process of building out) have enjoyed the same happiness with
>> their solution, however, they have a more flexible solution that has
>> cost them less.  As the saying goes (I'm sure with some degree of
>> slaughter)...  No one got fired for buying IBM, but many got promoted
>> for implementing a better solution.
>>
>> Yes, the ICS that I started is a local WISP, VoIP operator, network
>> support, etc., etc.  However, I am in process of securing racks,
>> bandwidth, private lines, etc. in several carrier hotels in the US and
>> EU (possible merger\acquisition of another provider with a presence in
>> the US and Asia).  The clients that I have\am working with represent
>> over 20k lines.  I have grown beyond the simple operation you take me
>> for.
> You keep reminding everyone here of Nick Catalano. Try not to make the
> same mistakes as he did - don't talk about things "in process" until it
> actually happens. Otherwise, everyone will keep reminding you of your RFP
> back when you were in high school for some research project.
>
>> Am I pushing a product?  No, I am not ready for customers.  I'm just
>> trying to push against the "TDM is holier than thou" mentality when not
>> needed.  GSM?  Why?  It sounds horrible.  G.711 or G.729.  I'm waiting
>> for good Asterisk support of wideband codecs for higher quality yet.
> TDM just works. Yes, you *can* make VoIP work almost as good as TDM -
> using proper QoS, T.38 for faxing, <insert some other solution for modem
> pass-through> - but why, when TDM just works?
>
> Alex Pilosov    | DSL, Colocation, Hosting Services
> President       | alex at pilosoft.com    877-PILOSOFT x601
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