[asterisk-biz] Rant: Wannabe "carriers" please tell the truthorlive up to expectations.

jay kordic jay at thehorizongroup.biz
Wed Feb 1 13:30:53 MST 2006


You are not dealing with Tier 1's.You might have to step up and pay a little
more!

 

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From: asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Script Head
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 11:32 AM
To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Rant: Wannabe "carriers" please tell the
truthorlive up to expectations.

 

I am in a process of doing exactly that. In fact, last weeks experiences
have driven me to talk directy to Tier-1 carriers.

The sad part is, even at the point where I was pushing less than 1/2 million
minutes per month, many carriers couldn't handle the traffic. It was always
something: lack of avaiable bandwith, crashing servers or codecs,
downtime... It seem that the majority of "carriers" aren't even prepared to
handle traffic like that. 




On 2/1/06, Alex Pui <alex.pui at act-labs.com> wrote:

Script Head,

 

I am not a "carrier", but I think the question would be, if you are buying
more volume than most of the "carrier" here, why would you deal with them?
Just trying to insult them that they are not "quality"provider. I think you
should deal with tier 1 carrier by yourself.

 

Or do I miss anything?

 

Alex

 

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From: asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Script Head
Sent: February 1, 2006 10:30 AM
To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
Subject: [asterisk-biz] Rant: Wannabe "carriers" please tell the truth
orlive up to expectations.

 

If you're in the business of providing termination services (some at
incredibly low prices), please read this.

I have dealt with many so called carriers over the last couple of months,
almost all of them are present on this list. I am always clear about my
calling patterns and expected volume.  Everyone wants the minutes and always
say "oh we can take all you can send" and always lie about or underestimate
your capacity. When I send 50 or more channels, you choke. Some have choked
at 20 channels, some even less. You might have enough channels committed
form your "upstream provider" but you don't have enough bandwidth to accept
the calls and send them to your upstream. I am almost sure that the majority
didn't do any scalability testing. 

The points are:

1. If you're a reseller of a reseller with a 10+ domestic "carriers" loaded
in your LCR, you are not a quality provider. 
2. If you do have Tier-1 upstreams, you shouldn't have a problem revealing
that information. If you have a problem doing that, you're using
bottom-of-the-barrel carriers. 
3. If your entire infrastructure consits on a leased box on Cogent bandwith
"burstable to 100 mbit", you're not a qualitity provider. Nobody in their
right mind will let you burst from 1 mbit to 100 for $59.95 per month. 
4. When someone asks you for a commitment of N number of channels, you
better damn have them or say straight out you can't do it.

I think it should be also a normal practice to make iptraf avaiable to a
potential customer so he can test the amount of bandwidth (and burst) you
have available. 

ScriptHead


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