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might have to step up and pay a little more!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Script Head<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, February 01, 2006
11:32 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Commercial and
Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [asterisk-biz] Rant:
Wannabe "carriers" please tell the truthorlive up to expectations.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>I am in a process of
doing exactly that. In fact, last weeks experiences have driven me to talk
directy to Tier-1 carriers.<br>
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The sad part is, even at the point where I was pushing less than 1/2 million
minutes per month, many carriers couldn't handle the traffic. It was always
something: lack of avaiable bandwith, crashing servers or codecs, downtime...
It seem that the majority of "carriers" aren't even prepared to
handle traffic like that. <br>
<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmailquote><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>On 2/1/06, <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Alex Pui</span></b>
<<a href="mailto:alex.pui@act-labs.com">alex.pui@act-labs.com</a>> wrote:</span></font></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:blue'>Script Head,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:blue'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:blue'>I am not a "carrier", but I think the question
would be, if you are buying more volume than most of the "carrier"
here, why would you deal with them? Just trying to insult them that they are
not "quality"provider. I think you should deal with tier 1 carrier by
yourself.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:blue'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:blue'>Or do I miss anything?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:blue'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:blue'>Alex</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:blue'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <a
href="mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com" target="_blank">asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com" target="_blank">asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com</a>]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Script Head<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> February 1, 2006 10:30 AM<br>
<span class=q><b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Commercial and
Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion</span><br>
<span class=q><b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b>
[asterisk-biz] Rant: Wannabe "carriers" please tell the truth orlive
up to expectations.</span></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>If you're
in the business of providing termination services (some at incredibly low
prices), please read this.<br>
<br>
I have dealt with many so called carriers over the last couple of months,
almost all of them are present on this list. I am always clear about my calling
patterns and expected volume. Everyone wants the minutes and always say
"oh we can take all you can send" and always lie about or
underestimate your capacity. When I send 50 or more channels, you choke. Some
have choked at 20 channels, some even less. You might have enough channels
committed form your "upstream provider" but you don't have enough
bandwidth to accept the calls and send them to your upstream. I am almost sure
that the majority didn't do any scalability testing. <br>
<br>
The points are:<br>
<br>
1. If you're a reseller of a reseller with a 10+ domestic "carriers"
loaded in your LCR, you are not a quality provider. <br>
2. If you do have Tier-1 upstreams, you shouldn't have a problem revealing that
information. If you have a problem doing that, you're using
bottom-of-the-barrel carriers. <br>
3. If your entire infrastructure consits on a leased box on Cogent bandwith
"burstable to 100 mbit", you're not a qualitity provider. Nobody in
their right mind will let you burst from 1 mbit to 100 for $59.95 per month. <br>
4. When someone asks you for a commitment of N number of channels, you better
damn have them or say straight out you can't do it.<br>
<br>
I think it should be also a normal practice to make iptraf avaiable to a
potential customer so he can test the amount of bandwidth (and burst) you have
available. <br>
<br>
ScriptHead<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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