[asterisk-users] asterisk-users Digest, Vol 160, Issue 5

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Today's Topics:

   1. ? PJSIP and Non Media Proxy (Saint Michael)
   2. Re: ? PJSIP and Non Media Proxy (Joshua Colp)
   3. Re: ? PJSIP and Non Media Proxy (Pete Mundy)
   4. PJSIP console messages with Zoiper (Brian Capouch)
   5. Re: PJSIP console messages with Zoiper (Richard Mudgett)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2017 13:42:50 -0500
From: Saint Michael <venefax at gmail.com>
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Subject: [asterisk-users] ? PJSIP and Non Media Proxy
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?Now that Joshua had the kindness to respond, I see here a big disconnect
between Digium and the VOIP industry. 99% of the VOIP entrepreneurs like me
would need to avoid proxying the media.  Would would Digium support and
bring in with such fanfare a channel like PJSIP that lacks the only thing
that 99% would need to do business in an efficient manner? I mean people
like me buy and sale billion of minutes every day, and most of my peers
gravitate towards Opensips and other solution that do not touch the media.
Yesterday I had to roll back my sleeves and go back to the old sip channel.
I would love to see Asterisk-PJSIP to find a way to act like a proxy. This
would turn Asterisk into a real wholesale business tool, which is not, so
far.
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2017 15:16:09 -0400
From: Joshua Colp <jcolp at digium.com>
To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] ? PJSIP and Non Media Proxy
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On Sun, Nov 5, 2017, at 02:42 PM, Saint Michael wrote:
> ?Now that Joshua had the kindness to respond, I see here a big disconnect
> between Digium and the VOIP industry. 99% of the VOIP entrepreneurs like
> me
> would need to avoid proxying the media.  Would would Digium support and
> bring in with such fanfare a channel like PJSIP that lacks the only thing
> that 99% would need to do business in an efficient manner? I mean people
> like me buy and sale billion of minutes every day, and most of my peers
> gravitate towards Opensips and other solution that do not touch the
> media.
> Yesterday I had to roll back my sleeves and go back to the old sip
> channel.
> I would love to see Asterisk-PJSIP to find a way to act like a proxy.
> This
> would turn Asterisk into a real wholesale business tool, which is not, so
> far.

It's not the lack of this feature which drives people to using OpenSIPS
or Kamailio for this use case. It's just fundamentally designed
differently and better performant for that scenario. Asterisk isn't the
best solution for everything everyone needs or wants, and that's okay.
There are other projects (like those already mentioned) that are a
better fit, and Asterisk can even play a part in there as an application
server.

I'm a firm believer in using the right tool for the right job even if it
means that Asterisk isn't the right fit. Frustrated users are something
I never want to see.

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Joshua Colp
Digium, Inc. | Senior Software Developer
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2017 08:37:30 +1300
From: Pete Mundy <pete at fiberphone.co.nz>
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
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Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] ? PJSIP and Non Media Proxy
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> On 6/11/2017, at 7:42 AM, Saint Michael <venefax at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> <snip> I see here a big disconnect between Digium and the VOIP industry. 99% of the VOIP entrepreneurs like me would need to avoid proxying the media. </snip>

Wow, that's quite a bold statement. I must be one of the 1% then because I'm a VoIP entrepreneur and I've had no need to do such thing.


> <snip> I mean people like me buy and sale billion of minutes every day" </snip>


Granted, I don't "buy and sell billions of minutes every day"... By my calcs that would require some 11K+ channels running 24X7, and that's just for one billion per day! So I'm dubious of the claim, and that in turn makes me dubious of the quoted 99% figure too.


Pete


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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2017 23:11:15 -0500
From: Brian Capouch <brianc at palaver.net>
To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
Subject: [asterisk-users] PJSIP console messages with Zoiper
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I'm running Asterisk 15.1.0 and in the process of converting my
various SIP endpoints to use PJSIP.

My Zoiper client causes the messages quoted below to show up on the
CLI once per minute.  Things seem to work OK, but I am curious because
there seems to be no way to suppress the messages, and there are three
per minute, clogging up the console.

Thanks.

b.

** snip **
    -- Added contact
'sip:8005 at 64.184.17.216:51891;rinstance=21e198ab7d94a096' to AOR
'8005' with expiration of 60 seconds
  == Contact 8005/sip:8005 at 64.184.17.216:51891;rinstance=21e198ab7d94a096
has been deleted
  == Contact 8005/sip:8005 at 64.184.17.216:51891;rinstance=21e198ab7d94a096
has been created
    -- Contact 8005/sip:8005 at 64.184.17.216:51891;rinstance=21e198ab7d94a096
is now Unknown.  RTT: 0.000 msec



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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2017 06:50:47 -0600
From: Richard Mudgett <rmudgett at digium.com>
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
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Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] PJSIP console messages with Zoiper
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On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 10:11 PM, Brian Capouch <brianc at palaver.net> wrote:

> I'm running Asterisk 15.1.0 and in the process of converting my
> various SIP endpoints to use PJSIP.
>
> My Zoiper client causes the messages quoted below to show up on the
> CLI once per minute.  Things seem to work OK, but I am curious because
> there seems to be no way to suppress the messages, and there are three
> per minute, clogging up the console.
>

Your console has the verbose level set to 3 or higher so you have asked to
see them.  Setting the verbose level to 1 will suppress them on the console.

Richard
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