[asterisk-users] Atcom IP-4B ISDN IP PBX?

Gordon Henderson gordon+asterisk at drogon.net
Sun Dec 12 23:06:26 UTC 2010


On Sun, 12 Dec 2010, Hans Witvliet wrote:

> On Sun, 2010-12-12 at 21:35 +0000, Gordon Henderson wrote:
>> On Sun, 12 Dec 2010, Hans Witvliet wrote:
>>
>>> But as BRI / (aso known as ISDN2) is more a thing of the past, i mean
>>> pre-adsl, for the general public, the number of people with bri and
>>> hence their potential market is (too) small, i fear.
>>
>> It's not a thing of the past in Europe - well, the UK and Germany and
>> maybe France... ISDN2e is still the standard for small/medium business
>> connectivity over here (UK).
>>
>> Probably mostly because there are still PBX installation monkeys selling
>> it in preference to VoIP because they don't know how to make VoIP work.
>>
>> Much as I'd like to, I do not see ISDN2e going away in the UK in the next
>> 10 years.
>
> Well, the fact that it is (still) popular in the UK, is merely that the
> salespeople BT used some more of their braincels than the
> telco-providers in NL.
>
> (I used to work at a manufacturer of telco equipment, so i knew about
> pricing)
> Basic handsets were way overpriced (40 times more expensive than regular
> headsets) hence avoiding general interest.
>
> And if you wanted more than 2B channels, your were forced with a full E1
> line, with subscription fee for each B-channel. No thing like fractional
> E1.

Hm. I have one customer with 8 ISDN2e ports - that's 16 channels. BT want 
to charge them several arms & legs to run fibre (for a mere 2Mb line, 
sheesh!), but are happy to supply more copper ISDN2e lines...

Gordon



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