[asterisk-users] Please help test the gender detection module at 575-613-4392

Sat Feb 21 12:01:24 CST 2009

Tzafrir- Again, very good points. See my responses below.

>What does this have to do with using 'Asterisk Asterisk' instead of
>'Justin Newman'?

I was sick of all the junk mail in my old accounts and working with digest mode was a pain, so I quickly created a new yahoo.com account a few days ago. I was just concerned with creating a new account at that time, so I quickly put in "Asterisk Asterisk". However, I just went and updated the name and signature. Hope this helps and the fame will follow!

>Have those been deployed already?

I deployed a few small changes as planned and I'll finish the bulk of it this weekend.

>Where can I find it, then?

Honestly, I just wrote the app and was asking folks to test to see if it was even worthwhile at this point. It's working pretty well and I can see that there is interest, so I'll get it posted soon. I have always released my gpl modules in the past, so I'm not sure why this is a concern. Plus, I'd hope that any posting works well enough before pushing a whole lot of noise on to the wiki and source sites.

>This code is NOT included with Asterisk at this point, however it is

Yes, I do prefer to release add-ons. Asterisk seems pretty bulky to me and I prefer the alternative to Digium's disclaimer.

>SourceForge, GoogleCode or whatever. Having the programs available under
>version control means a lot to others. All three provide a simple wiki
>for your documentation (the latter two have some more advanced options).

I'll add it to sourceforge and my site, along with some others. It is already in cvs. I'll post the documentation on voip-info.org like I have done in the past. My source packages in the past two years also include much better documentation and a cleaner build system. If you want to help with any of this posting or management, you'll help would be a breath of fresh air. I'm usually very busy writing code or doing business, which an get in the way.

>Furthermore, your Voip-Info user page comes up high when searching for
>'Justin Newman asterisk'. Why not put there some more useful details?

There are quite a few Justin Newman's now. I used to think my name was not common. A quick search will reveal some interesting stories. One Justin Newman was killed in Chicago so that another man could fake his death. I was once pulled over in Washington for speeding down I-5 in my bimmer and the officer asked if I had a warrant out for my arrest due to name likeness. There are also several of us Justin Newman's in the VOIP world.

Anyhow, I hope some of my efforts above benefit the community. Feel free to catch me on IM.

---
Justin Newman
Sr Software Engineer
Envy Software LLC
nt_asterisk at yahoo.com (general list)
nt_jnewman at yahoo.com (personal)
justin_newman (skype im)
justin_newman (yahoo im)

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From: Tzafrir Cohen <tzafrir.cohen at xorcom.com>
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion <asterisk-users at lists.digium.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:17:48 AM
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Please help test the gender detection module at 575-613-4392

On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 11:16:06AM -0800, Asterisk Asterisk wrote:
> You have some good points.
> 
> >Justin Newman isn't exactly "someone we don't know". However I only
> 
> I agree that my name wasn't clear, but I was trying to avoid getting a 
> bunch of spam myself. I'm not sure if I've personally ever spammed the 
> list and I'm pretty supportive of the community. I have been part of 
> these lists for many many years.

What does this have to do with using 'Asterisk Asterisk' instead of
'Justin Newman'?

> 
> >* The message starts by asking you to call a number.
> 
> That was the help needed and it worked. There have been more than 500 
> different callers now and they keep coming in. I'm going to need help 
> with a second round of testing, after I release the updates today and 
> Sunday, but I haven't figured out how to entice people to test again. 

Have those been deployed already?

> 
> >* No page with further information. Such a page helps to provide further
> 
> I'm open for suggestions. Let me know how I can be more helpful. By the 
> way, thanks everyone for YOUR help!
> 

See below regarding project hosting.

> >* Is this module intended to be free software? (As it is not mentioned,
> >  I guess: "no"). If not, I'm less motivated to help to it.
> 
> 
> Yes, it's free as in GPL. I'm fine tuning and then releasing to the 
> community. My customer paid to have the base written with the 
> assumption that it would be released GPL, with further community work 
> down the road. Let me know if you have any thoughts, feedback, or 
> suggestions.

Where can I find it, then?

I just did a quick search and couldn't find nither it nither a place to
download your other apps. 

For instance, the voip-info pages for them rank high when you look for
the various NV* apps. However I see in those pages:

  This code is NOT included with Asterisk at this point, however it is
  free. To get it, search the web.

And I find various copies of it all over. Where is the canonical source?
Where should I look for updates?

If you don't want to bother much, just open up a project in GitHub,
SourceForge, GoogleCode or whatever. Having the programs available under
version control means a lot to others. All three provide a simple wiki
for your documentation (the latter two have some more advanced options).

The former two also suppurt a Git repository. A distributed version
control system will probably work better with your workflow as you won't
be required to commit to some remote SVN server.

Furthermore, your Voip-Info user page comes up high when searching for
'Justin Newman asterisk'. Why not put there some more useful details?
http://www.voip-info.org/users/view/justin_newman

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               Tzafrir Cohen
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