[asterisk-users] Panasonic x Asterisk ... NO PROBLEM!

Wed Oct 22 21:11:39 CDT 2008

TDE does NOT need a VoIP card, you need to buy a DSP card, VoIP is
built in. In fact if you are making pure VoIP extensions to extension
calls you don't even need the DSP card/s.
What type of VoIP are you trying to accomplish with Asterisk?
Extensions to extensions? or Provider based.
In any event I don't think it makes any difference, since adding
Asterisk just for VoIP will cost the customer at least $2000.00 plus
the phones plus some card in the TDE (PRI Card?) that will talk with
Asterisk, while adding the DSP cards will cost way less and they will
be happier since the Panasonic proprietary VoIP phones look the same
as the digital proprietary phones.

The only drawback with Panasonic Proprietary VoIP: you do need a VPN
to every point, and if you will be using Peer to Peer (the MPR on the
TDE does), each VPN endpoint must be able to communicate with every
other endpoint (there is some fancy name for this but I forgot what
it's called).

On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 8:54 AM, César García <celord at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello Rodolfo,
>   I see you have experience with Panasonic, and I have a new challenge of
> integrating Asterisk in an enterprice where they have a KX-TDE200 without
> the "VoIP card" so they can' t have voip with the pana-PBX, and that's why
> they want *, so do you have any advices for me :) ? I need to integrate
> asterisk and keep the panasonic :(  because it is almos new.
>
> Thanks a lot!!!!
>
> 2008/10/17 C F <shmaltz at gmail.com>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 8:02 AM, Rodolfo Alcazar Portillo
>> <rodolfo.alcazar at padep.org.bo> wrote:
>> > You are argueing with things like "I can do it with panasonic, but it's
>> > not documented anywhere", "documentation is a mess but not poor", "sorry
>> > for underestimate your abilities". "Sorry but I do [completely
>> > understanding Panasonic PBXs]". Not technical. Worst even: that's the
>> > propietary software culture.
>> >
>> > Many thanks for your advice, LED's issue was an imprtant feature to keep
>> > the eye on. I'll stick with asterisk, for many reasons *.
>> >
>> > Thanks again. Good luck.
>> >
>> > R
>> >
>> > * Only one (have more examples): even though I have old pana-PBXs, I
>> > bought a TDA100 ("new model" as provider offered). Has some SMDR bug,
>> > CERTIFIED tech tried to upgrade firmware twice, can not, ended
>> > programming it three times, costs us tens hours of service, until
>> > guarantee is lost, now works worst as initially: has noise on one line.
>> > Surely there is a fix (though not documented, as you wrote)...
>> >
>>
>> Both the fact tech couldn't update it and the noise indicate the tech
>> didn't do it right. There is specific well documented procedure how to
>> do it. The reset precess should take care of both problems.
>>
>> > ... and bug stills strong as ever.
>> >
>> > Am Freitag, den 17.10.2008, 00:57 -0400 schrieb C F:
>> >> On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 7:25 AM, Rodolfo Alcazar Portillo
>> >> <rodolfo.alcazar at padep.org.bo> wrote:
>> >> > Am Mittwoch, den 15.10.2008, 20:51 -0400 schrieb C F:
>> >> >> Being a Panasonic dealer and having more than 50 Asterisk system in
>> >> >> production, I can tell you that if this is your first Asterisk
>> >> >> project, then go with Panasonic, you'll safe yourself lots of
>> >> >> aggravation and have a happier customer.
>> >> >
>> >> > You are completely wrong!
>> >> >
>> >> > Last 4 years, I installed/programmed 6 Panasonic (KXTD1232, 3x TA308,
>> >> > TDA100, TEM824) in our offices.
>> >>
>> >> TD1232 has been discontinued for at least 5 years. Don't know about
>> >> the the TA308 since the last and only one I installed was in 1998, but
>> >> I have not seen them advertised in the last 5 years. Which makes me
>> >> think they are discontinued as well.
>> >>
>> >> > Until now, I don't completely understand
>> >>
>> >> Sorry but I do.
>> >>
>> >> > them. Their GUI software is really bad. The functions are awfully
>> >> > limited. Manuals are poor. Mailing lists with helpful people there is
>> >> > not.
>> >>
>> >> GUI on the TD is really really bad. Functions are not limited, like
>> >> you said: "I don't completely understand them". GUI on the TDA is nice
>> >> and organized. Documentation is a mess but not poor. The main reason
>> >> being it's translated from Japanise, and they don't explain the theory
>> >> just the steps.
>> >> Yes no mailing lists.
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > Less than a week ago (friday), bought 3FXS, 1FXO with SIP
>> >> > (sipura/linksys), and KNOW NOTHING ABOUT asterisk. Today, I emulated
>> >> > almost all features we use (account codes, DISA, own dial plans), and
>> >> > I
>> >> > can really say: ASTERISK WORKS INCREDIBLE!
>> >> >
>> >> > I even programmed an AGI script, which injects a variable to
>> >> > extensions.conf; on the other hand, that means I can reboot a server
>> >> > from my cellphone, isn't that incredible?
>> >>
>> >> I can do that with Panasonic as well, no it's not documented anywhere
>> >> in Panasonic docs.
>> >>
>> >> > now, I dont' know how, but 99% I'm sure I can trigger a phonecall
>> >> > when
>> >> > one server is offline. Only with asterisk. I'm almost sure a
>> >> > Panasonic
>> >> > can't emulate this features. Maybe with some expensive software.
>> >> >
>> >> > Then, I'm going to suggest 30 Voip phones, 2 8xFXO digium. I made an
>> >> > informal presentation yesterday, the people were amused. Thanks the
>> >> > people (thanks, peru guys) which guided me. Good luck everybody, I'll
>> >> > keep asking on this list, sorry.
>> >> >
>> >> > No more panasonic for me :)
>> >> >
>> >> > Newbies, ask how to start.
>> >>
>> >> Congratulations and good for you. Sorry for underestimating your
>> >> abilities. I wish you good luck, and if you feel comfortable please go
>> >> ahead and use Asterisk. But if this is a type of customer that doesn't
>> >> understand that you are experimenting with them and is not willing to
>> >> work with you, then don't do it with THEM.
>> >>
>> >> > --
>> >> > Rodolfo Alcazar
>> >> > Responsable red y datos
>> >> >
>> >> > Deutsche Gesellschaft für
>> >> > Technische Zusammenarbeit (GTZ) GmbH
>> >> >
>> >> > Programa de Apoyo a la Gestión Pública Descentralizada y
>> >> > Lucha Contra La Pobreza - PADEP
>> >> > Av. Sánchez Lima 2226
>> >> > La Paz, Bolivia
>> >> >
>> >> > Tel: +591 22417628 (121)
>> >> > Fax: +591 22417628 (126)
>> >> > Web: www.padep.org.bo
>> >> > Email: rodolfo.alcazar at padep.org.bo
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
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>> >
>> > Deutsche Gesellschaft für
>> > Technische Zusammenarbeit (GTZ) GmbH
>> >
>> > Programa de Apoyo a la Gestión Pública Descentralizada y
>> > Lucha Contra La Pobreza - PADEP
>> > Av. Sánchez Lima 2226
>> > La Paz, Bolivia
>> >
>> > Tel: +591 22417628 (121)
>> > Fax: +591 22417628 (126)
>> > Web: www.padep.org.bo
>> > Email: rodolfo.alcazar at padep.org.bo
>> >
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