[asterisk-users] Panasonic x Asterisk ... NO PROBLEM!

Tue Oct 21 07:54:05 CDT 2008

Hello Rodolfo,
  I see you have experience with Panasonic, and I have a new challenge of
integrating Asterisk in an enterprice where they have a KX-TDE200 without
the "VoIP card" so they can' t have voip with the pana-PBX, and that's why
they want *, so do you have any advices for me :) ? I need to integrate
asterisk and keep the panasonic :(  because it is almos new.

Thanks a lot!!!!

2008/10/17 C F <shmaltz at gmail.com>

> On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 8:02 AM, Rodolfo Alcazar Portillo
> <rodolfo.alcazar at padep.org.bo> wrote:
> > You are argueing with things like "I can do it with panasonic, but it's
> > not documented anywhere", "documentation is a mess but not poor", "sorry
> > for underestimate your abilities". "Sorry but I do [completely
> > understanding Panasonic PBXs]". Not technical. Worst even: that's the
> > propietary software culture.
> >
> > Many thanks for your advice, LED's issue was an imprtant feature to keep
> > the eye on. I'll stick with asterisk, for many reasons *.
> >
> > Thanks again. Good luck.
> >
> > R
> >
> > * Only one (have more examples): even though I have old pana-PBXs, I
> > bought a TDA100 ("new model" as provider offered). Has some SMDR bug,
> > CERTIFIED tech tried to upgrade firmware twice, can not, ended
> > programming it three times, costs us tens hours of service, until
> > guarantee is lost, now works worst as initially: has noise on one line.
> > Surely there is a fix (though not documented, as you wrote)...
> >
>
> Both the fact tech couldn't update it and the noise indicate the tech
> didn't do it right. There is specific well documented procedure how to
> do it. The reset precess should take care of both problems.
>
> > ... and bug stills strong as ever.
> >
> > Am Freitag, den 17.10.2008, 00:57 -0400 schrieb C F:
> >> On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 7:25 AM, Rodolfo Alcazar Portillo
> >> <rodolfo.alcazar at padep.org.bo> wrote:
> >> > Am Mittwoch, den 15.10.2008, 20:51 -0400 schrieb C F:
> >> >> Being a Panasonic dealer and having more than 50 Asterisk system in
> >> >> production, I can tell you that if this is your first Asterisk
> >> >> project, then go with Panasonic, you'll safe yourself lots of
> >> >> aggravation and have a happier customer.
> >> >
> >> > You are completely wrong!
> >> >
> >> > Last 4 years, I installed/programmed 6 Panasonic (KXTD1232, 3x TA308,
> >> > TDA100, TEM824) in our offices.
> >>
> >> TD1232 has been discontinued for at least 5 years. Don't know about
> >> the the TA308 since the last and only one I installed was in 1998, but
> >> I have not seen them advertised in the last 5 years. Which makes me
> >> think they are discontinued as well.
> >>
> >> > Until now, I don't completely understand
> >>
> >> Sorry but I do.
> >>
> >> > them. Their GUI software is really bad. The functions are awfully
> >> > limited. Manuals are poor. Mailing lists with helpful people there is
> >> > not.
> >>
> >> GUI on the TD is really really bad. Functions are not limited, like
> >> you said: "I don't completely understand them". GUI on the TDA is nice
> >> and organized. Documentation is a mess but not poor. The main reason
> >> being it's translated from Japanise, and they don't explain the theory
> >> just the steps.
> >> Yes no mailing lists.
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Less than a week ago (friday), bought 3FXS, 1FXO with SIP
> >> > (sipura/linksys), and KNOW NOTHING ABOUT asterisk. Today, I emulated
> >> > almost all features we use (account codes, DISA, own dial plans), and
> I
> >> > can really say: ASTERISK WORKS INCREDIBLE!
> >> >
> >> > I even programmed an AGI script, which injects a variable to
> >> > extensions.conf; on the other hand, that means I can reboot a server
> >> > from my cellphone, isn't that incredible?
> >>
> >> I can do that with Panasonic as well, no it's not documented anywhere
> >> in Panasonic docs.
> >>
> >> > now, I dont' know how, but 99% I'm sure I can trigger a phonecall when
> >> > one server is offline. Only with asterisk. I'm almost sure a Panasonic
> >> > can't emulate this features. Maybe with some expensive software.
> >> >
> >> > Then, I'm going to suggest 30 Voip phones, 2 8xFXO digium. I made an
> >> > informal presentation yesterday, the people were amused. Thanks the
> >> > people (thanks, peru guys) which guided me. Good luck everybody, I'll
> >> > keep asking on this list, sorry.
> >> >
> >> > No more panasonic for me :)
> >> >
> >> > Newbies, ask how to start.
> >>
> >> Congratulations and good for you. Sorry for underestimating your
> >> abilities. I wish you good luck, and if you feel comfortable please go
> >> ahead and use Asterisk. But if this is a type of customer that doesn't
> >> understand that you are experimenting with them and is not willing to
> >> work with you, then don't do it with THEM.
> >>
> >> > --
> >> > Rodolfo Alcazar
> >> > Responsable red y datos
> >> >
> >> > Deutsche Gesellschaft für
> >> > Technische Zusammenarbeit (GTZ) GmbH
> >> >
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> >> > Lucha Contra La Pobreza - PADEP
> >> > Av. Sánchez Lima 2226
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> >> >
> >> > Tel: +591 22417628 (121)
> >> > Fax: +591 22417628 (126)
> >> > Web: www.padep.org.bo
> >> > Email: rodolfo.alcazar at padep.org.bo
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
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> >
> > Deutsche Gesellschaft für
> > Technische Zusammenarbeit (GTZ) GmbH
> >
> > Programa de Apoyo a la Gestión Pública Descentralizada y
> > Lucha Contra La Pobreza - PADEP
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> > La Paz, Bolivia
> >
> > Tel: +591 22417628 (121)
> > Fax: +591 22417628 (126)
> > Web: www.padep.org.bo
> > Email: rodolfo.alcazar at padep.org.bo
> >
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