[asterisk-users] World Cheapest Predictive Dialer!

Mark Hamilton mark.h at cage151.com
Tue Jun 17 16:30:46 CDT 2008


Yeah, but what do you get billed as? I understand if your callerID and the
called party is from within a state, it's interstate routing. If between
states, then it's intrastate, etc

The billing depends on the callerID you send.
So, if you send a 000-000-0000 clid to a 917 area code, what would the call
be routed/billed as?


-----Original Message-----
From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Steve Totaro
Sent: June 17, 2008 4:55 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] World Cheapest Predictive Dialer!

I can set to anything on my Qwest circuit.  All zeros or whatever,
just has to be ten digits.  I have seen some that will send less than
ten like a four digit extension number on a misconfigured system.

Thanks,
Steve T

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 4:38 PM, Matt Florell <astmattf at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> If you have a PRI-T1 in the USA, then you can set outgoing CallerID
> with just about any carrier.
>
> MATT---
>
> On 6/17/08, Mark Hamilton <mark.h at cage151.com> wrote:
>> How can they even set such 1234567890 callerIDs anyway?
>>  For example, our inter/intra state calling depends a lot on the
callerIDs.
>>
>>
>>  -----Original Message-----
>>  From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com
>>
>> [mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Matt
Florell
>>  Sent: June 13, 2008 8:20 AM
>>  To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
>>  Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] World Cheapest Predictive Dialer!
>>
>>  Hello,
>>
>>  I am not suggesting that the USA's laws exist outside of the USA, I
>>  can imagine the horrible problems that would cause in the rest of
>>  world. I wanted to point out that if you are using this service and
>>  doing business in the USA that you could face penalties for not
>>  following the law. According to the FTC, both companies(the scrubber
>>  and the client) are guilty of breaking the laws of the USA.
>>
>>  If you are calling the USA and need to use this company's FTC DNC list
>>  filtering services then you may have USA-based operations of some
>>  kind. In such cases it is important to note that companies have been
>>  fined millions of dollars and have been shut down in the USA for
>>  violating these regulations.
>>
>>  I am well aware of the fact that companies based outside of the USA
>>  routinely call-blast the USA with auto-dialers that send out callerIDs
>>  such as 1234567890 and do no filtering against the USA FTC DNC lists.
>>  A large portion of these companies are doing lead-generation for
>>  USA-based companies, and over the years a lot of those USA-based
>>  companies have been shut down for the activities of their lead
>>  suppliers.
>>
>>  MATT---
>>
>>  On 6/13/08, Dean Collins <Dean at cognation.net> wrote:
>>  > Yep it's funny how few people on this list realize that the usa's
>>  >  borders and laws stop 50 miles off the coast.
>>  >
>>  >  It's also surprising how few Americans realize that a company
>>  >  incorporated internationally (Pakistan in this instance) even if
owned
>>  >  as a subsidiary of a USA parent doesn't have to follow the laws of
the
>>  >  USA but actually falls under the jurisdiction of the laws they are
>>  >  incorporated under.
>>  >
>>  >  I'm not saying this is good or bad, 'm just saying that as 'asterisk'
>>  >  people we should be smart enough to play the laws that suit us to our
>>  >  advantage, if you think that the Global 1000 companies don't then you
>>  >  are kidding yourself.
>>  >
>>  >  Besides we have the advantage in that almost everything we do can be
>>  >  virtual in most instances.
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >  Cheers,
>>  >
>>  > Dean
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >  -----Original Message-----
>>  >  From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com
>>  >  [mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Steve
>>  >  Totaro
>>  >  Sent: Friday, 13 June 2008 7:06 AM
>>  >  To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
>>  >  Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] World Cheapest Predictive Dialer!
>>  >
>>  >  My guess is that they are outside of the FTC's jurisdiction.....
>>  >
>>  >  Thanks,
>>  >  Steve T
>>  >
>>  >  On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 6:15 AM, Matt Florell <astmattf at gmail.com>
>>  >  wrote:

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