[asterisk-users] World Cheapest Predictive Dialer!

[Matt Florell]

Not sure who complains, but it has happened before. the first case was
in 2006 when Phase One Marketing who was fined by the FTC for
indirectly acquiring the FTC DNC list from another entity.

MATT---

On 6/13/08, Steve Totaro <stotaro at totarotechnologies.com> wrote:
> I suppose if they are properly scrubbing (not the legal definition,
>  but the practical definition of  removing people that are on the DNC
>  lists), then who is going to complain?
>
>  Thanks,
>  Steve T
>
>
>  On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 8:19 AM, Matt Florell <astmattf at gmail.com> wrote:
>  > Hello,
>  >
>  > I am not suggesting that the USA's laws exist outside of the USA, I
>  > can imagine the horrible problems that would cause in the rest of
>  > world. I wanted to point out that if you are using this service and
>  > doing business in the USA that you could face penalties for not
>  > following the law. According to the FTC, both companies(the scrubber
>  > and the client) are guilty of breaking the laws of the USA.
>  >
>  > If you are calling the USA and need to use this company's FTC DNC list
>  > filtering services then you may have USA-based operations of some
>  > kind. In such cases it is important to note that companies have been
>  > fined millions of dollars and have been shut down in the USA for
>  > violating these regulations.
>  >
>  > I am well aware of the fact that companies based outside of the USA
>  > routinely call-blast the USA with auto-dialers that send out callerIDs
>  > such as 1234567890 and do no filtering against the USA FTC DNC lists.
>  > A large portion of these companies are doing lead-generation for
>  > USA-based companies, and over the years a lot of those USA-based
>  > companies have been shut down for the activities of their lead
>  > suppliers.
>  >
>  > MATT---
>  >
>  > On 6/13/08, Dean Collins <Dean at cognation.net> wrote:
>  >> Yep it's funny how few people on this list realize that the usa's
>  >>  borders and laws stop 50 miles off the coast.
>  >>
>  >>  It's also surprising how few Americans realize that a company
>  >>  incorporated internationally (Pakistan in this instance) even if owned
>  >>  as a subsidiary of a USA parent doesn't have to follow the laws of the
>  >>  USA but actually falls under the jurisdiction of the laws they are
>  >>  incorporated under.
>  >>
>  >>  I'm not saying this is good or bad, 'm just saying that as 'asterisk'
>  >>  people we should be smart enough to play the laws that suit us to our
>  >>  advantage, if you think that the Global 1000 companies don't then you
>  >>  are kidding yourself.
>  >>
>  >>  Besides we have the advantage in that almost everything we do can be
>  >>  virtual in most instances.
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>  Cheers,
>  >>
>  >> Dean
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>  -----Original Message-----
>  >>  From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com
>  >>  [mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Steve
>  >>  Totaro
>  >>  Sent: Friday, 13 June 2008 7:06 AM
>  >>  To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
>  >>  Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] World Cheapest Predictive Dialer!
>  >>
>  >>  My guess is that they are outside of the FTC's jurisdiction.....
>  >>
>  >>  Thanks,
>  >>  Steve T
>  >>
>  >>  On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 6:15 AM, Matt Florell <astmattf at gmail.com>
>  >>  wrote:
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>
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