[asterisk-users] Blind transfer 3/4 digits

Mon Sep 4 17:06:06 MST 2006

David Gagnon wrote:
> Ronald,
>
> 	Like someone already told you, you should explain more clearly the
> way you try to transfer, we need more details on the procedure, using which
> button on which phone. We need every detail to help you. This as nothing to
> do with the way the dial plan is loaded, this is totally false.
>
> 	I'm sure most of the people here don't understand how you try to
> transfer.
>
> 	David
>
>   

David,

I am not sure how the explanation how to punch the keys changes 
something, .... ;-.)

Ok, here we go:

Snom:
pick up the phone and hit ##6014 followed by [ok]

Noname:
pick up the phone and hit ##6014     must be pushed very fast!!! No end 
# needed, since the phone 601 starts to ring as soon I reach 1.

In my opinion Asterisk remembers all numbers and therefore it does not 
wait for the 4, since it found a match. This is in VoIP (in my opinion) 
wrong, since overlapping numbers are allowed.

Sip message / dtmf, this is something different! How is the transfer 
made? Maybe snom does send a sip message, while the noname only send 
dtmf tones.

bye

Ronald

> -----Message d'origine-----
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> [mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] De la part de Ronald
> Wiplinger
> Envoyé : 4 septembre 2006 09:22
> À : Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
> Objet : Re: [asterisk-users] Blind transfer 3/4 digits
>
> Koopmann, Jan-Peter wrote:
>   
>> On Sunday, September 03, 2006 3:40 AM Ronald Wiplinger wrote:
>>
>>   
>>     
>>> try that way. However, I have doubts as well. If you are right, than
>>> why snom phone does not have this problem? Would not here also the
>>> first match count?   
>>>     
>>>       
>> Because the transfer button on the SNOM is using a totally different
>>     
> mechanism than sending # to Asterisk. On your snom configuration (like ours)
> the phone does not start to create/send a SIP message until you hit "OK". At
> that time the entire number is there and a complete SIP transfer is created.
> Cool down a bit. The problem you are having is most probably just a dialplan
> problem. It takes some time and experience to get those things right. No
> need to yell here...
>   
>>   
>>     
> What's happen to you guys? I am not yelling, just asking.
> It is sure not a dialplan question! If it would be a dialplan question, 
> than it would be for each dialing, but it isn't.
>
> You mentioned SIP message and that makes me wonder! Are we not using 
> here dtmf ?? that is in my opinion not a sip message, isn't it?
> If it is a sequence of "tones", than why is it different if it is in a 
> string (like snom) or another phone, with single tones?
> If we understand this part, than is the question, where can I turn on 
> the system to take a longer break between "tones" still as a string?
>
> Back to the dialplan:
> A Voip number can have different length of digits. Each number is seen 
> as a complete "picture", and so a three digit and a four digit number is 
> something different. While in the legacy telephony the digits are worked 
> down one by one and if there is no more use of the digits, they are just 
> garbage and will be not used. Unlike in VoIP, where you can have a three 
> digit number and if you dial four digit, than it is a WRONG number !!!! 
> I just verified that: I dialed from 601 to  61522, however, 61522 does 
> not exist, but 615 exists. Guess what? I get a busy tone! That should 
> proof my thoughts (and that without yelling, ... hehehehe)
>
> bye
>
> Ronald
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