[Asterisk-Users] RE: SIP TAPI

Jerry Jones jjones at danrj.com
Wed May 24 14:57:47 MST 2006


A big disadvantage for a hosted provider is creating manager accounts  
for end users. for a single company installation it may not be a big  
deal, but SIP TAPI looks much cleaner to me as a service provider.

Of course I have yet to get a good configuration for it working  
properly.


On May 24, 2006, at 1:36 PM, Clint Sharp wrote:

> Yeah, that sounds about right.  I can see advantages and disadvantages
> to both.  The main advantage I see to AstTapi besides signaling  
> incoming
> calls (which I haven't tested on my modified code, I guess I should  
> work
> on that) is that once you've setup a user in the Asterisk Management
> interface and modified your dial plan accordingly, you're done, you
> don't have to add new entries for every instance of AstTapi.  That  
> would
> be a burden I'd think in a larger installation of SIPTapi with  
> Asterisk.
>
> The nice advantage also to AstTapi is that signaling is ongoing while
> the call is in progress, so you can end the call from the TAPI
> application.  This is a real boon in real CTI setups for callcenters
> where the phones might be set to autoanswer incoming calls on a  
> headset,
> display information, and the user ends the call.
>
> Seems like there should be a simpler way to do an TAPI interface with
> the Asterisk management interface w/o a bunch of UserEvents though.  I
> think I'll look into that, because it'd be nice if all you had to  
> do was
> add the user to the manager.conf and be done.  I know I could probably
> do that on outbound calls, incoming calls might be a little more
> difficult.  It could probably be done with some assumptions about
> extension length, etc.  Sorry, just thinking aloud, but that's  
> probably
> where it should go from here.
>
> Clint
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Brent
> Torrenga
> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 12:44 PM
> To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
> Subject: [Asterisk-Users] RE: SIP TAPI
>
> Clint,
>
> Crap. Wish I would have seen your setup first. I played with  
> asttapi for
> a
> few days, and gave up. My problems were manager related, and you cover
> those
> points well enough on your page.
>
> I was able to get SIP TAPI to work this way:
>  - each install of SIP TAPI needs a SIP user in sip.conf.
>  - each SIP user made for SIP TAPI needs a context in extensions.conf.
>  - each context made for SIP TAPI looks like:
>
> [blah-tapi]
> exten => s,1,Dial(SIP/blah)
> Include => blah-internal-context
>
> It seems to work great this way. The software is taken out of the loop
> immediately after connecting to SIP/blah, thus does not have call  
> state
> like
> ast tapi does. However, I think this also means that you can have an
> unlimited number of simultaneous calls, unlike ast tapi. Also, this  
> does
> not
> provide for pop-ups on incoming calls or call progress, whereas ast  
> tapi
> does. What I really don't like about my setup is the lack of  
> "outbound"
> caller-id on your phone - no way to use the redial button. I guess a
> plus
> for SIP TAPI here is that it doesn't require manager events to be put
> into
> the dial plan - yay!
>
> Clint, in your opinion, do I have the differences between the two
> programs
> summarized correctly?
>
>> FYI, I've got a working version of asttapi that will work with  
>> Asterisk
>> 1.2 up on my site at http://www.kirkhamsystems.com/asttapi .  It's  
>> the
>> debug build, so it contains some extra code, but that's merely to  
>> help
>> me out if anyone sends in a bug report (which so far out of  
>> apparently
>> 80 something downloads, no bug reports yet, I guess it's working  
>> well).
>>
>> Only reason I mention it is that I can't imagine trying to drop  
>> down to
>> SIP level support in asterisk when the asterisk management interface
>> works so well with asttapi.
>>
>> Clint
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Brent A. Torrenga
> brent.torrenga at torrenga.com
>
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>
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