[asterisk-users] NuFone, please send the log file

C F shmaltz at gmail.com
Tue Jul 11 17:51:01 MST 2006


While I don't disagree with you, look at what my point was, just
accusing them for such without any documentation doesn't make sens.

On 7/11/06, trixter aka Bret McDanel <trixter at 0xdecafbad.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 2006-07-11 at 20:16 -0400, C F wrote:
> > I find this hard to believe, half a truth is a whole lie. First you
> > just say the screwed you out $3k, not saying how, letting everyone
> > assume thru phone service, then you change the story, you lied before,
> > how do we know you are saying the truth now?
>
> Elaborating on a story isnt changing it, its providing additional
> details.  That is hardly a lie.  The fact that he claims he lost $3000
> from nufone did not in anyway change, the fact that you assumed
> something then found out that you were wrong in your assumption does not
> make him a liar either.
>
> But you get an A for effort.
>
> > In any case it doesnt make sense anyhow, why would you pay $3k for
> > just setting up a server, when others here on the list will do it for
> > much less. Also they never did the work? just took the money? thats an
> > accusation that doesn't make sense.
>
> Just becuase others will do it for less doesnt mean that he didnt opt
> for them to do the work.  I dont see that as not making sense, there are
> many lawyers out there that charge a premium for their services when you
> can get one much cheaper.  Yet the expensive ones still get clients.
> The same is true for virtually every industry and even products.  People
> will buy name brand foods instead of the white label generics even
> though they might be the same.  People buy brand name drugs instead of
> the generics (which are identical in chemical composition) yet the
> generics are cheaper.  It happens every day in virtually every good and
> service.
>
> As for someone taking  the money and not doing the work, that happens
> all too often as well.  As such a claim that it doesnt make sense that
> someone wanted something for nothing isnt so easily dismissed.
>
> NuFone placed a ton of international calls on behalf of a customer, then
> later they tried to not pay for the service that was provided according
> to their contract.  Why?  Because the calls were to a destination that
> had a high billing rate and NuFone didnt charge enough for the call.
> They signed the contract to pay for those services, they billed the
> customer for those calls, yet they didnt want to make good on it (jermey
> was all too eager to talk about this to forbes and other major
> publications too, so its Jermeys claim that they didnt want to pay for
> service provided).  As such the "something for nothing" issue is
> something NuFone has an admitted history of.
>
> That tends to lend credibility to the claim that they did indeed do
> this, although it doesnt prove it, and the 'doesnt make sense' argument
> is no better than 'chewbacca'.
>
> Again you get an A for effort.
>
>
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