[Asterisk-Users] Nasty little incident ...

Asterisk asterisk at dotr.com
Wed Jun 15 22:53:15 MST 2005


Many thanks for the help. Please see my inline comments.

Jamie Carl wrote:
> Exactly what I was about to say Steve.  The numbers won't change. They 
> are configured when the driver actually detects the E1 card and it's 
> spans.  If a span goes down it doesn't disappear. Turning off the 
> meridian would be the same as an E1 that's connected to a carrier going 
> down.  If the channel numbers changed and everything stopped working 
> every time that happened, no one would be using asterisk.  Our carrier 
> friends are hardly 100% reliable.

Amen to that. I was hoping people would say this.

> 
> I'm going with clock source.  I have a feeling that it was using span 4 
> for clocking and when it lost that, it broke everything...

Isn't my clocking on span 1 (span=1,1,0,ccs,hdb3,crc4) rather than 4 
(span=4,0,0,ccs,hdb3,crc4) though ?

Julian.

> 
> Jamie
> 
> 
> On Wed, 2005-06-15 at 21:32 +0100, Steve Hanselman wrote:
> 
>>I doubt they do, if they are marked as being there, but happen to be down then the numbers would stay the same.
>>Sounds more likely that something happened with the clock source.
>> 
>>You'd need to reproduce it out of hours and look at the output of pri show span x and cat /proc/zaptel/*
>> 
>>
>>
>>________________________________
>>
>>From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com <mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com> on behalf of Rich Adamson
>>Sent: Wed 15/06/2005 5:01
>>To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
>>Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Nasty little incident ...
>>
>>
>>
>>> >>We have a te410p, with the following connections:
>>> >>
>>> >>span 1 connected to a 32 Channel EuroISDN
>>> >>span 2 connected to a card in a legacy pbx (Meridian)
>>> >>span 3 connected to a 10 Channel EuroISDN
>>> >>span 4 connected to a card in a legacy pbx (Meridian)
>>> >>
>>> >>We have no need for the meridian now, and decided to turn it off. I did
>>> >>not change the zaptel.conf settings, nor the zapata.conf settings.
>>> >>
>>> >>When the meridian was turned off, * would no longer allow any outbound
>>> >>or inbound calls through spans 1 and 3 (although these are connected to
>>> >>the pstn). When I turned the meridian back on - in a hurry I might add
>>> >>;) (had no time to play with configurations) and restarted *, then
>>> >>everything was ok again ...
>>> >>
>>> >>Should I comment out span 2 and 4, run a ztcfg, unplug the cables in 2
>>> >>and 4, and then turn off the meridian ?
>>> >>
>>> >>Julian.
>>> >>
>>> >>/* zaptel.conf */
>>> >>
>>> >>span=1,1,0,ccs,hdb3,crc4
>>> >>bchan=1-15,17-31
>>> >>dchan=16
>>> >>
>>> >>span=2,0,0,ccs,hdb3,crc4
>>> >>bchan=32-46,48-62
>>> >>dchan=47
>>> >>
>>> >>span=3,2,0,ccs,hdb3,crc4
>>> >>bchan=63-77,79-93
>>> >>dchan=78
>>> >>
>>> >>span=4,0,0,ccs,hdb3,crc4
>>> >>bchan=94-108,110-124
>>> >>dchan=109
>>> >>
>>> >>loadzone=uk
>>> >>defaultzone=uk
>>> >>   
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >Just a wild guess....
>>> >
>>> >When the two meridian links disappeared, the channel numbers
>>> >probably changed. Instead of channels 1 through 124, you probably
>>> >have channels 1 through 62 and your supporting dialplan (and other
>>> >channel specific items) likely don't match.
>>> > 
>>> >
>>>
>>> I thought that the definitions in the zaptel.conf and zapata.conf (see
>>> below) defined the channel numbers, not the physical channels themselves
>>> ? I use Dial(zap/g3) to call on the zap channels.
>>>
>>> /* zapata.conf */
>>>
>>> context=isdn32-b
>>> prilocaldialplan=national
>>> internationalprefix = 00
>>> nationalprefix = 0
>>> localprefix = 01702
>>> group=1
>>> signalling=pri_cpe
>>> switchtype=euroisdn
>>> channel=1-15,17-31
>>>
>>> context=meridian-b
>>> group=2
>>> signalling=pri_net
>>> switchtype=euroisdn
>>> channel=32-46,48-62
>>>
>>> context=isdn32-a
>>> pridialplan=unknown
>>> group=3
>>> signalling=pri_cpe
>>> switchtype=euroisdn
>>> channel=63-77,79-93
>>>
>>> context=meridian-a
>>> group=4
>>> signalling=pri_net
>>> switchtype=euroisdn
>>> channel=94-108,110-124
>>
>>I'm sure there are others on this list that can add to this, but
>>when the card drivers are loaded and ztfg run, the channels that
>>are discovered have to be mapped to what's in zaptel.conf one way or
>>another. (Moving card driver load around changes the discovered
>>order and one must manually modify zaptel.conf to match.)
>>
>>Then each zap channel is defined in zapata.conf, and those definitions
>>have to match the channel numbers resulting from the above zaptel.conf
>>stuff.
>>
>>So, what happens when two E1s disappear? Do the avaiable channel
>>numbers change at the zaptel.conf level? My best guess is they do,
>>but I don't have E1s around to play with to prove it. So, that's
>>my best guess and it certainly can be an incorrect guess on my
>>part.
>>
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