[Asterisk-Users] Re: Are there online forums insteadofthisemailforum??

[Mark Charlton]

I registered 1 week ago, and this message took 3 minutes to reach me.

Granted I'm in the UK so there is bound to be some strange effect causing
the speeding up of the message.  

This topic is like a bad penny, it just won't go away.

Mark 

-----Original Message-----
From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Tim Bass
Sent: 01 April 2005 15:14
To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Re: Are there online forums
insteadofthisemailforum??


The lag time on SMTP list depends on three factors:

(1)  The volume of the traffic; 

(2)  When you registered (if you registered two years ago, for example, you
receive mail in a large list before someone, say, who registered a month
ago);

(3)  Various points of network congestion and delays.

During peak times on this list, people who have recently registered have a
one hour lag time to receive messages and it has little to do with ISPs,
etc.  

Some simple math. (not completely accurate) ........ If there are 2000
people on the list and it takes 2 seconds to deliver a message, and you are
at the end of the list, then it will take 1000 seconds to get mail, or 15
minutes to get mail.    If any network congestion, then it could take an
hour for some people at the end of the list (which you will not see if you
are at the first of the list).

Yesterday, during peak traffic, for people at the end of the list, the lag
time was over one hour, easily measurable.  Mr. Mountifield's message test
was not (1) during peak traffic and (2) he ,may not have registered
recently, because if he did, he would have seen the serialization lag time.

Let's use this message, mornings are busy.  I send it a 9:13 EST..... We
will see when it returns.


-----Original Message-----
From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Tony
Mountifield
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 4:40 AM
To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Re: Are there online forums instead
ofthisemailforum??


In article <000801c53633$203d08b0$6401a8c0 at dc.dc.cox.net>,
Tim Bass <bass at silkroad.com> wrote:
> 
> In addition, the lag time between posting a message to this list and 
> having it delivered is a joke.  I posted this message below at 2:35 
> and it was delivered to me, a new subscriber, an hour later.

My postings normally come back to me within a few minutes (my local box
polls my POP3 accounts every 2 minutes).

> I am sorry to say, but those on this list who are aggressively 
> advocating SMTP mail with a lag time on a hour, posting profanity, and 
> being impolite to other posters are not helping the Digium community.
> These "shout down" replies are absolute nonsense and I, for one, am 
> surprised that Digium supports this type of nonsense support.

Individuals' lack of courtesy or people skills is a completely independent
issue from the preference for mailing lists or web forums.

Suffice it to say that if there was a genuine preference amongst the
majority for a web forum instead of a mailing list, there is more than
enough skill and resources to make it happen. The fact that it hasn't
happened might just say something.

Cheers
Tony
--
Tony Mountifield
Work: tony at softins.co.uk - http://www.softins.co.uk
Play: tony at mountifield.org - http://tony.mountifield.org
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