[Asterisk-Users] Need a dial plan as follows

[Benjamin on Asterisk Mailing Lists]

On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 22:07:43 -0600, Steven Critchfield
<critch at basesys.com> wrote:
> I look forward to the time when you understand why your
> approach to the question was offensive.

Maybe it wasn't so much his questions ("has this been done before?"
and "where to post a bounty?") but his very unfortunate choice of a
subject line ("Need ... as follows") which if not considered
offensive, at the very least will raise some eyebrows.

Perhaps a subject like "MOH while Asterisk searches for callee" would
have been more helpful. I personally didn't even bother to read the
message because of its subject and only peeked in out of curiousity
about the responses ;-)

rgds
benjk

> 
> In the meantime, a little more on how not to be offensive. Asking a
> specific question that shows effort will be rewarded with friendly
> advice. Asking a question that hist only the highpoints of your problem
> with no appearant effort will be coldly received. When you do get a
> moment, please find ESR's paper on how to ask a smart question. It will
> be invaluable for you when you seek to extract knowlege from others in
> the FOSS field. BTW, I do not consider ESR a good role model for person
> interaction, but he speaks intelligently on this topic.
> 
> > In the mean time I will learn the old fashion way and buy the
> > knowledge I have no time to learn on my own from friendlier folks than
> > yourself.
> 
> This was what was soo appearant in your message that was offensive. When
> you get this support for free, you need to temper your approach to that
> of someone asking a favor from another bust individual. Your message
> smacked of self importance and your need to place your problem before
> others. Actions like that make people feel this list becomes a welfare
> state where those who know must work hard for those who do not wish to
> put forth effort.
> 
> > To the rest of the community, my deepest apology, but he deserved it.
> 
> and maybe after this rebuttal, you will see how you deserved it more
> than you believe.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: "Steven Critchfield"<critch at basesys.com>
> > Sent: 11/06/2004 6:55:06 PM
> > To: "Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion"<asterisk-users at lists.digium.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Need a dial plan as follows
> 
> 
> >
> > On Sat, 2004-11-06 at 18:04 -0700, Damon Estep wrote:
> > > I need to put together a dial plan for an extension that has this
> > > behavior;
> >
> > Go hire a consultant. It looks like either you are trying to be a
> > consultant or it is your homework question. Either way, money should be
> > involved for those who would do your JOB for you.
> >
> > There is a list of consultants on http://www.voip-info.org/ wiki, there
> > is also a -biz list for similar things.
> --
> Steven Critchfield <critch at basesys.com>
> 
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