[Asterisk-Users] Asterisk-Users List Etiquette

Brian Capouch brianc at palaver.net
Thu Jun 17 23:18:05 MST 2004


Andrew, you are right on with your final point about absurdity.

Hopefully this vile top-posting will illustrate exactly why.

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

B.

Andrew Kohlsmith wrote:
> On Thursday 17 June 2004 09:21, Troy Settle wrote:
> 
>>However, my preference is for top posting.  The reason, is that in order to
>>read my message here, you had to scroll through ~70 lines of previous
>>discussion.  Stuff that you've /already/ read since you've been following
>>this thread.
> 
> 
> That's because you didn't trim anything.  To see what I wrote to you You had 
> less than 10 lines to look at.  Please don't use absurdity to try and prove 
> your point.
> 
> 
>>Oh!  Wait, you found this in an archive, so you /want/ to have the thread
>>fully quoted so you don't have to go hunting down the references.  Good,
>>that's why I didn't trim this post.
> 
> 
> Um no, that's why the archives are threaded themselves.  Attempt at reductio 
> ad dbsurdum #2 failed.
> 
> 
>>Oh, wait, the guys that are following this thread as it's being discussed
>>would prefer that I trim out the stuff up there, in which case, I would be
>>neither top posting, nor bottom posting.  This message would be a post unto
>>itself that wouldn't have any quoted material at all.  Afterall, you've
>>already read the referenced material.
> 
> 
> I consider trimming the quoted text and replying to the bits you keep as they 
> occur bottom posting -- your text is FOLLOWING the relevant bits of the 
> conversation.
> 
> Inline posting is something completely different and it's even more heinous:
> 
> 
>>So, the bottom line is that top-posters are lazy?  [ yes, they are 
> 
> absolutely.  Inline posters are even worse! ] I say yes, we are.  We
> 
>>don't want to have to scroll through pages of quoted material just to get
>>to the new stuff.  [ so trim your damned posts ]
> 
> 
> That above is an example of inline posting.  Some managers have a penchant for 
> that.
> 
> 
>>I say that the bottom posters are lazy.  They want a bottom post so that
>>they enter into a thread 12 messages later, and not have to read the thread
>>'backwards.'  Read your mail to begin with, and you wouldn't have this
>>problem, and you would actually start to appreciate the top posters,
>>because they're making it so you don't have to scroll through ~70 lines of
>>quoted material to get to the new stuff.
> 
> 
> That's not laziness, that is following natural language laws.  I have over 25k 
> messages in my local copy of asterisk-users.  My MUA understands message 
> threading so if people posted the One True Way (editing quoted content and 
> replying underneath, as I am doing to you here) then there is no problem 
> following the flow of the thread, and if I need more information I move up to 
> the message parent and see the entire message.
> 
> It's not a difficult thing to understand, and this absurdity you're spewing to 
> try and prove your point only goes to show that your argument doesn't hold 
> much logic.
> 
> Regards,
> Andrew
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