[Asterisk-Users] [ot] Grandstream hardware

Leo Ann Boon leo at innovax.com.sg
Mon Jan 19 20:19:36 MST 2004


Patent licensing is usually, like this:
a) direct licensing if you rolled your own implementation of the specs
b) indirect - if you bought an implementation from another vendor, case 
in point Digium licenses the G.729a binary from Voiceage.

Cheers

Eric Wieling wrote:

>On Mon, 2004-01-19 at 14:01, Bob Knight wrote:
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>>Scott Stingel wrote:
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>>>>What *I* want to know is why someone has not made a CHEAP PCI card
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>>with
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>>>>4, 8, or 16 of these DSPs on it.  This kind of card would provide
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>>>Expanding a bit on Nicolas' message, DSP software is complex, and
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>>there is
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>>>not a huge number of people who do it well.  So along with the board
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>>layout
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>>>and production cost (not trival for a 6- or 8-layer board), you have
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>>the
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>>>programming cost for both the PGA (programmable gate array) device(s)
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>>and
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>>>the DSP.   You also have the cost of the DSP simulators, driver
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>>development
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>>>etc etc.
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>>>All of these must be amortized over the number of boards you expect
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>>to sell
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>>>- that's why the board price can get so high.  Dialogic's D600-2E1
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>>JCT
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>>>boards etc cost well over US$10000.  The whole point of the
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>>asterisk/digium
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>>>exercise is to move the complex software to the PC and take advantage
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>>of the
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>>>economies of scale that it brings.
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>>Don't forget power and HEAT!
>>When I was making Portmasters at Livingston/Lucent we made modem
>>boards
>>with a bunch of DSP's sitting on TDM's.  Some of those DSP's are great
>>BTU generators.  Some times you have to clock the DSP at slower speeds
>>just to
>>keep the heat down.
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>Did patent/codec indemnification come as part of the DSP product, or did
>you have to do the indemnification separately?
>
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