[Asterisk-Users] Is asterisk that unstable ????

Steven Critchfield critch at basesys.com
Thu Dec 30 12:01:46 MST 2004


On Thu, 2004-12-30 at 10:22 -0700, Michael Welter wrote:
> Steven Critchfield wrote:
> > On Thu, 2004-12-30 at 08:29 -0700, Damon Estep wrote:
> > 
> >>Only for small deployments? How do you interface with your fax machines?
> >>analog alarm systems? pc modems?
> > 
> I think most alarm companies continuously monitor the impedience of the 
> line to detect tampering.  This is the type of thing you'd want to 
> install and forget.
> 
> And Steve, why are you flaming Fedora Core users?  When I jumped from 
> Windows to Linux in 1965, RedHat 4.? was about the only thing available. 

1965??? Neither windows nor linux existed in '65. '95 would be more
plausible, but RH in '95 was pre 3.0.3 according to this historical
version release dates page. http://www.owlriver.com/redhat_versions.html

If you have been a RH user that long, you SHOULD know how abysmal the
security and stability track record of a *.0 release of RH has been. Way
too often it was rushed out the door for whatever reason. Upgrades from
one release to another where painful or problematic.

http://www.robotwisdom.com/linux/timeline.html
1993: 02Aug: SLS linux
1993: Aug: Debian linux
1994: 29Jan: Debian version 0.91
1994: 05Feb: Slackware 1.1.2
1994: RH 1.0
1994: 30Mar: MCC Interim 1.0+
1994: Apr: SeSE Linux
1994: Oct: Xdenu Linux

Of course in that time frame I was running NetBSD since linux caused me
trouble with the cdrom drive I had at the time.  

>   At that time there was _zero_ Linux representation in the computer 
> stores.  If it weren't for Linus and RedHat, I'd be a VB programmer 
> right now.  There is a certain amount of loyalty, you know...

I was burned without ever using redhat myself. Loyalty is a bandaid that
hurts worse the longer you use it to cover trouble.

All that and I'll tell you I have been burned with debian too, but less
severe and only when I was asking for it by running testing or unstable
code. I was at least the one who could choose my risk level.

Of course, then I have disdain for a lot of the RH users and even more
for a good portion of Fedora Core users who seem to be wanting ES but
are too cheap to pay for it. Either way, there is usually a lot of
either newbish or blinded by a contract users on RH and FC. Both are
blinded to other options and tend to not want to think much about
options. That specific behavior is one that I despise in people even
outside of the computer realm. I don't understand why someone wouldn't
want to know a fair amount about what they are doing. Of course I am the
one who will fret and fuss over the tires I put on my car for nearly a
month before I feel comfortable with actually buying the tires. All the
times I actually spent that time mulling the options, turned out to be a
good decision. This last time I put what quickly seemed to be good tires
on my car, and I am quickly having to get reused to driving my car and
limiting my driving style to not over drive the tires.  
-- 
Steven Critchfield <critch at basesys.com>




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