[Asterisk-Users] Radius on *

Gary gary at ausmail.com
Mon Nov 17 18:43:19 MST 2003


An an ISP, I can radius is a very good solution for billing purposes
and seems to be the solution which MANY large systems use.

No matter how much it might be argued otherwise, it is currently used.

Now in reality the only thing stopping radius being used with asterisk
is the lack of interface. Yes CDR records can be converted to look and
feel like radius stop/accounting records, but the biggest bug overall I
have poersonally found is authentication.

Currently we use a common flat file for both sip & iax and reload
asterisk regularly.

It would be much nicer if this could be via a dynamic lookup mechanism
(be it radius or other means).

Gary


On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 06:30:15 +0500, Arslan Saeed wrote:

>I agree with Lars Boegild's arguments for RADIUS. Much VoIP Billing
>software relies on Radius AAA mechanism. Radius also enables to
>seamlessly share existing user base for VoIP network too. Think of an
>ISP becoming ITSP... Radius also provides better features for
>authentication and authorization policies than asterisk can offer. 
>
>Arslan.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Lars Boegild Thomsen [mailto:lth at cow.dk] 
>Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 6:07 AM
>To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
>Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Radius on *
>
>I won't agree that RADIUS shouldn't ever have been deployed in a VoIP
>environment.  While it can be argued that RADIUS is not in any way an
>ideal
>solution and it can also be argued if it is necessary in a PBX software
>such
>as Asterisk, fact is that many IP service providers already have
>advanced
>billing systems based on RADIUS in place.
>
>As I see it RADIUS does not add another layer of complexity - but
>instead
>another layer of abstraction.  If Asterisk could do authentication and
>accounting using RADIUS it wouldn't need to bother with different
>RDBMS's
>and the whole discussion of PostgreSQL versus MySQL would be void :)
>Freeradius easily support MS-SQL, MySQL, Oracle, Sybase, PostgreSQL etc.
>etc. without any problems whatsoever, so it would significantly simplify
>things if Asterisk had a smart RADIUS module.  Actually even the
>provisioning of dial-plans could be done through RADIUS, which would
>make
>mass-deployment of Asterisk boxes a lot simpler to administrate.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: asterisk-users-admin at lists.digium.com
>> [mailto:asterisk-users-admin at lists.digium.com]On Behalf Of Jeremy
>> McNamara
>> Sent: 18 November 2003 05:33
>> To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
>> Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Radius on *
>>
>>
>> Sebastian Nocetti wrote:
>>
>> >Does Asterisk support Radius accounting?....
>> >
>> >
>>
>> No and there is absolutely no need for it to.   RADIUS is not anything
>> that should have ever been deployed in a VoIP environment.
>>
>> There are many methods to talk directly to a database, why add another
>> layer of complexity and point of failure?
>>
>>
>> Jeremy McNamara
>>
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