[asterisk-scf-dev] [asterisk-dev] building asterisk-scf

[Marc Blanchet]

Kevin, I understand all that.  but the dependencies is the burden of the target install: i.e. if one to install software X but that software X requires Y and never get Y to easily install, then X looses... 

I'm just saying that the install process is more complicated and any way to make it easy will get more people in. just saying... will shut up now on this topic.

Marc.

Le 2011-10-21 à 15:32, Kevin P. Fleming a écrit :

> On 10/21/2011 02:04 PM, Marc Blanchet wrote:
>> 
>> Le 2011-10-21 à 14:57, Kevin P. Fleming a écrit :
>> 
>>> On 10/21/2011 01:26 PM, Marc Blanchet wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>>  following instructions on "https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/TOP/Building+-+Linux" for a clean-new-minimal-install Fedora14, it stopped with:
>>> 
>>> This should go on the asterisk-scf-dev list.
>> 
>> oups, email automatic completion... now continuing on -scf-dev.
>> 
>>> 
>>>> cd ice
>>>> cd cpp
>>>> make install
>>>> Creating /opt/Ice-3.4.2...
>>>> mkdir: cannot create directory '/opt/Ice-3.4.2': Permission denied
>>>> cd ../py
>>>> make install
>>>> Creating /opt/Ice-3.4.2...
>>>> mkdir: cannot create directory '/opt/Ice-3.4.2': Permission denied
>>>> cd java
>>>> make install
>>>> complaining about the non-existence of ../cpp/bin/...
>>>> 
>>>> Is the build process requires root priv to install in /opt? does not make sense to me. Or are instructions incomplete?
>>> 
>>> That's up to your Linux distribution; in general, yes, root permission is required to install software outside of your home directory. The same situation applies installing Ice on Windows; it must be done with administrator privileges.
>>> 
>>> I suppose we could add comments on the wiki pages to tell you to either build as root or use 'sudo', but at some point we have to assume some basic knowledge on the part of the person reading the instructions :-)
>> 
>> - you know I'm not talking about that...
>> 
>> - what I'm saying is that why for building asterisk-scf, we can't have all the building done within a user directory, as typical for many software, and only have the final make install be done by root?
> 
> I've never tested trying to use Ice from its build directories instead of from its install directories; it's possible that it would work, but if the Ice Makefiles make changes to the libraries during the installation process, it might not.
> 
> You aren't building a *single* software package here, so it's necessarily going to have more steps than if you were. You are building Ice, then a set of plugins for Ice, then Asterisk SCF itself. They aren't integrated and never will be, because they shouldn't be. This would be no different than if you were building an application that required a newer version of the Apache APR libraries than your system has available via pre-built packages; you'd have to download and build the new version of APR, then install it, *then* you could build the package that required it.
> 
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