[asterisk-dev] Mailing List Future

[Paul Kudla (SCOM.CA Internet Services Inc.)]

Good morning

I got verified however the new mailing list is using

Asterisk Development Team via groups.io <bounce at groups.io>

note the bounce at groups.io

should really be an asterisk email address

if i open up groups.io (like msvc etc) then spam will flow

i am an isp and apologise for the comments knowing you are doing you 
best, just letting you know some difficulties before they become a large 
scale issue


Have A Happy Thursday !!!

Thanks - Paul Kudla (Manager SCOM.CA Internet Services Inc.)


Scom.ca Internet Services <http://www.scom.ca>
004-1009 Byron Street South
Whitby, Ontario - Canada
L1N 4S3

Toronto 416.642.7266
Main 1.866.411.7266
Fax 1.888.892.7266
Email paul at scom.ca

On 2024-01-02 8:55 a.m., asterisk-dev-bounces at lists.digium.com wrote:
> On 1/2/2024 5:55 AM, Joshua C. Colp wrote:
>> On Tue, Jan 2, 2024 at 6:41 AM Paul Kudla <paul at scom.ca 
>> <mailto:paul at scom.ca>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>     Good morning
>>
>>     Note I am unable to confirm my new email on the group because the
>>     email
>>     is using a blocked server ??
>>
>>     mail19       01-02 05:35:51 {postfix.in <http://postfix.in>}
>>      [63603] (1871410360) Jan 02
>>     05:35:51 mail19 postfix/smtpd[63603]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from
>>
>>     web01.groups.io <http://web01.groups.io>[66.175.222.12]: 454 4.7.1
>>     Service unavailable; Client
>>     host [66.175.222.12] blocked using
>>
>>     bl.spamcop.net <http://bl.spamcop.net>; Blocked - see
>>     https://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?66.175.222.12;
>>
>>     from=<confirmbounce+8107350+4201506166695547482 at groups.io
>>     <mailto:confirmbounce%2B8107350%2B4201506166695547482 at groups.io>>
>>     to=<paul at scom.ca <mailto:paul at scom.ca>> proto=ESMTP
>>
>>     helo=<mail01.groups.io <http://mail01.groups.io>>
>>
>>     I did get the signup and also set my password but am unable to
>>     proceed.
>>
>>     SPAMCOP.NET <http://SPAMCOP.NET> is super flexible (ie will track
>>     and update bad ip's on the
>>     fly within 24 hours, so to land on this list means a server has been
>>     very very bad.
>>
>>     let me know if i can help further.
>>
>>
>> I don't think either of us can really help. Looking at groups.io 
>> <http://groups.io> posts this appears to happen sometimes, be it as a 
>> remaining result of a Yahoo migration that occurred in the past or 
>> from group admins adding email addresses for SpamCop spam traps in 
>> some capacity.
>>
>> InterLinked: You previously stated that most lists you've been on 
>> migrated to groups.io <http://groups.io>, has this been a problem for 
>> them and if so how did they approach it (if at all)?
> 
> I have to be on at least 2 or 3 dozen groups.io lists at this point and 
> I've not really seen this be much of a problem. It haven't seen it on 
> any of my lists with 100+ members or really heard about it on other 
> lists. Occasionally, maybe a couple times a year, there are *bounces* 
> and I know groups.io will auto unsubscribe users if it gets bounces to 
> comply with email subscription policies and what not. I don't have any 
> specific experience with SpamCop, that isn't a service I use on my mail 
> servers.
> 
> I think this is going to be inevitable to some extent with any hosted 
> mailing list. groups.io has a pool of IPs that they use but obviously 
> they are shared between lists. Digium has been self-hosting lists so it 
> hasn't had to worry about this in the past.
> 
> groups.io also has an online portal where you can register and manage 
> groups, but that probably entails receiving an email at some point so 
> you might run into the same issue there if you can't receive email.
> 
> Can you add the sender to your "safe senders" lists? IMO email services 
> that don't allow the spam rules to be overridden are fundamentally 
> flawed, but I realize you may not have control over that or be able to 
> switch services.
> 
> It probably doesn't hurt to get in touch with the guy that runs 
> groups.io, here: https://groups.io/helpcenter. I and others have reached 
> out before for things and he's helpful and responsive.
>