[asterisk-dev] 'IAX2 call variable passing between servers '

[Douglas Garstang]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian Capouch [mailto:brianc at palaver.net]
> Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 12:05 PM
> To: Asterisk Developers Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [asterisk-dev] 'IAX2 call variable passing 
> between servers
> '
> 
> 
> Jared Smith wrote:
> > 
> >>I don't see how this is complaining. I am trying to solve a problem,
> >>and given the lack of documentation out there, this is one 
> of the few
> >>places to turn. 
> > 
> > 
> > Maybe it's because of the tone of your emails, and how you 
> seem to think
> > the Asterisk community is a group of idiots because we 
> don't share the
> > same view of IAX2 as you do.  Maybe it's your insistence that you're
> > right and we're wrong, even when you fail to read the 
> responses written
> > to you.  (Then again, maybe we are a group of idiots, and 
> maybe I should
> > calm down and eat some breakfast before I read my email 
> first thing in
> > the morning.  Who knows?)
> > 
> 
> I know.
> 
> I read pretty much every post on this list, and pretty much 
> every post 
> on -dev, too.
> 
> Doug is far and away the poster most apt to complain about 
> Asterisk, and 
> its developers, in a derogatory fashion.  A few of his stock 
> phrases to 
> describe things that don't do exactly what he wants them to 
> are, "this 
> is crazy," "I can't believe the developers didn't think of this," and 
> "incredible, I know."  It goes on and on.
> 
> Doug doesn't just complain; he denigrates.  He is the biggest 
> troll on 
> either list, by far.
> 
> The comical upshot is that he also has used the list several times to 
> troll for a *job.*  What Asterisk administrator in his right 
> mind would 
> want to hire the biggest complainer on the list to come in 
> and make life 
> miserable for everyone?
> 
> Doug isn't dumb, and he does appear to read at least some of 
> what others 
> write on the list.  Why he persists in thinking that his snide, "I am 
> smarter than all of you" attitude is really going to help him get 
> anywhere, is a question to be taken up between him and his analyst.

I'm going to bite my tongue and be civil, although I'm pretty sure that no matter what I say, fault will be found with it.
What I am trying to implement with Asterisk is, in my opinion, far and beyond what I have seen anyone else on the mailing lists trying to do with it. I have hit brick wall after brick wall, and after much research, have had to compromise my requirements each and every time in order to move forward.

Given what we are trying to implement, I AM often amazed that developers didn't think of certain things, and often find things inredible or crazy. It's relative, and based on the difference between what you are trying to do, and what you CAN do, given the limitations of what you have to work with at the time.

I strongly disagree with the use of the word 'troll'. I'm guessing that most people in this list are American. I am in the US, but grew up in another country. I have often found that Americans don't like direct honesty. They prefer to have things sugar coated, or else they become offended very easily. I just know I'm going to get slammed for saying that rather than a polite 'I disagree', which may actually indicate truth to what I am saying.

Your use of the term 'Asterisk Administrator' shows a paradigm shift in the way we think about this product. To me it implies the use of Asterisk in an enterprise environment, which is not where we are. Disagreeing with your labelling of myself as a complainer, I would think that an 'Asterisk Administrator' would be happy with the fact that I have had to push this product way beyond what it's current capabilities are. 

Doug.