[Asterisk-Dev] need help

[Paul]

The lists should be replaced by a web based forum. That helps with a lot 
of issues. This post got me a message saying it was filtered for dirty 
word policy violation. There will always be a fresh crop of noobtards 
subscribing to mailing lists and newsgroups. It only gets worse. At 
least with the right bb software, you can prevent new users from posting 
to some forums for n days. These noobs subscribe and immediately 
crosspost questions that are answered in the first 2 paragraphs of the 
readme. Plus you can require email confirmation before they post 
anything at all.

Brian K. West wrote:

>The reality of the situation is that it doesn't improve anything at all.
>The -dev list gets a post that has merit for discussion and nobody replies
>or even engages in any type of discussion over the topic.   Meaningful posts
>are ignored a lot of the time and petty posts similar to this one right here
>get talked over and over and over again.  The horse is dead.  We all have to
>clean up or acts here if these lists are going to be of any use to anyone.
>
>To answer Andrew and Jeremy in this post also so we don't have yet another
>meaningless post for people to live thru.
>
>Jeremy,
>    I'm here because I can.  I like to keep up with what is going on.  I
>could ask you the same question.
>
>Andrew,
>    Yes I might have contributed to some flame wars in the users list and on
>the dev list too but I have realized that is not the way to behave at all in
>this environment.  I'm quick to reply and say the first thing that pops into
>my head which most of the time is the wrong thing to say.
>
>If the Asterisk community wants to grow up and project an image that we are
>mature Adults here. Then at the same time Digium will have to step up and
>provide Focus, Direction and some real Leadership to this project.  At this
>point and time Asterisk as a project lacks strong Leadership.  Do you see a
>roadmap? Do you see some solid proof that the development process is
>changing for the better?  Do you see any of this?  I have been at this over
>two years and it has yet to change after the many promises that it would!
>
>
>/b
>
>On 9/19/05 11:57 AM, "Paul" <digium-list at 9ux.com> wrote:
>
>  
>
>>The -dev and -biz lists will not be getting any better for posting
>>things that belong on -users in the first place. We improve the -users
>>list by putting the traffic there that belongs there. The side effect is
>>that it also helps improve the other lists.
>>    
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