[Asterisk-Dev] voicemail message number limits

[John Turner]

dking,
Give this article a quick read to see if it helps clear up some issue 
you are having.

http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20040722.html

John

On Jul 24, 2004, at 10:13 PM, dking at pimpsoft.com wrote:

> Your not seeing the full loop:
>
> They give the code to you from CVS as gpl.
> You make changes to it as gpl.
> You submit it back as GPL, because under the GPL you do not have ANY
> OTHER LEGAL RIGHT TO DO OTHERWISE.
> Digum must accept it as GPL, as they do not _legally_ have any other
> choice either.
>
> The GPL is viral, and is VERY explicit about this; No one at any time
> may 'un-gpl' software even for that instance you submit it before
> they copy it into the public domain source tree and add a copy of
> that to update the gpl source tree, no matter how many disclaimers
> you sign you are still breaking the law.
>
> Every single person who has developed for this project has broken the
> gpl by attempting to license the software derivative work as
> something other then GPL and giving rights over to digium they can
> not legally give up. Further more Digium has broken the lay by
> attempting to accept rights it legally can not have ownership of and
> for using the asterisk software in a un-gpl manner.
>
> Yes its something you all don not want to agree is true I understand
> that, but that does not make Digium any more legit in its illegal
> actions as they are the ones at fault, either that or you are all
> personally accountable for breaking the GPL every time you submit
> code as well to digiums breaking of the law.
>
>
>
> On 24 Jul 2004 at 21:17, Nicholas Bachmann wrote:
>
>> dking at pimpsoft.com wrote:
>>
>>> Exactly. I don't agree with that; There is nothing keeping open
>>> sourced GPL software from being sold commercially without that as
>>> long as the GPL is followed and the source is included when you sell
>>> it. I don't like the idea of a company thinking they can sell the
>>> work of others and not follow the rules.
>>>
>>> Also keep in mind that what digum is doing in that regard is
>>> technically _illegal_ since having people sign away there rights
>>>
>>>
>> It's completely legal for people to sign  over "there" [sic] rights to
>> Digium.  Digium, as the holder of the copyright to all of Asterisk, 
>> has
>> the right to license Asterisk any way it chooses, whether by the GPL 
>> or
>> any other license.  Digium, in theory, could one day decide that 
>> they'll
>> release Asterisk under a BSD license.  This is legal.  Any previous
>> Asterisk releases that were GPL are still GPL and can be distributed
>> within the limits of the GPL.
>>
>>> violates the GPL since it _explicitly_ states that all users of the
>>> software _must_ have the same rights as the user before and to follow
>>> it you _must_ give others the same rights you have.
>>>
>>>
>> But what Digium is doing is retaining the right to license the same
>> Asterisk code in a different way, separate from their GPL obligations.
>>
>>> I dont agree with violating the GPL or the law, so I will never sign
>>> the disclaimer/NDA.
>>>
>> It's NOT an NDA or a disclaimer, it's a waiver of sorts.  The source 
>> you
>> get from CVS is just as GPL as bash or the Linux kernel.  If you still
>> don't agree with it, then don't sign it... but please understand what
>> you're doing when you choose not to.
>>
>> Nick
>>
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