[Asterisk-Dev] Anyone interested in sharing PRI/T1 capacity in US (Virginia)?

Mon Apr 14 15:16:21 MST 2003

If you really try hard, you can get local and long distance on the same
T.  It's not 2 frac T's either, all the calls go out the same.  That
gives the place I'm running the phones for: free local, cheap intrastate,
and even cheaper interstate.  But that's with a PRI of $800.  Still, the
math works out that at about 12 POTS lines it is more economical to get
a T (not to mention 11 more lines.)  Mind you that's also an extremely
large call volume with the outbound sales staff.

Either way, make sure you read the fine print.  For about 2 months we
had a bad T, they had to come replace the wire, causing all sorts of
random interruptions of service.  We got a bunch of money back, but
can't recover any lost business estimates because it says we can't in
the contract.

--Chris

On Mon, 14 Apr 2003, stephen jarusinsky waxed:

> Your $700 PRI would most likely be for a local T1.  This means that inbound
> calls are free for you and depending on the state or region you are in local
> calls are also unlimited and free.
>
> A dedicated long distance T1 would be down in the $300 range because it is
> only a charge for the access line.  All traffic on these cost you a per
> minute charge.  The only inbound allowed on a dedicated long distance T1 is
> from an 800 number which you pay usage on.
>
> A local PRI can also get low but usually in states that charge a per minute
> usage fee on all local calling, usually about a penny a minute in your area.
> Most inbound and outbound long distance runs about 5 to 6 cents and can get
> down to 3 to 4 cents with those $1000 commitments.
>
> What is the NPA NXX (area code and phone prefix) for your area?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Radich" <stever at bitshop.com>
> To: <asterisk-dev at lists.digium.com>
> Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 5:10 PM
> Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Dev] Anyone interested in sharing PRI/T1 capacity in
> US (Virginia)?
>
>
> > I'm looking for some feedback from everyone that replied interested in
> > sharing PRI/T1 capacity.
> >
> > I'm getting quotes of around $500-$700/month for PRI - This strikes me as
> > high after people mentioned around $200/month for T1s.  Nobody seems to be
> > getting quotes of $200/month though to me <argh>.
> >
> > Long distance also isn't striking me as any cheaper on these PRIs than
> POTS
> > lines that we have today.  Am I just getting quotes from the wrong places?
> >
> > Does this pricing sound about right to everyone else?
> >
> > I can get 800 # cheaper with some commit on usage on a separate circuit.
> > I'm not sure if this is useful or not to everyone - I imagine some people
> it
> > is.
> >
> > If we have to commit to $1000/month then we'll need more than one or two
> > people to commit to this (unless 1 or 2 need 8+ lines each).
> >
> > For those of your international we can terminate the calls to the US via
> > Asterisk.
> >
> > Steve Radich - Colocation / Virtual Dedicated / Dedicated Servers
> > BitShop, Inc. - http://www.bitshop.com - $149/month colo special
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Michael Bielicki [mailto:Michael.Bielicki at Global-Gateway.net]
> > Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 3:27 PM
> > To: asterisk-dev at lists.digium.com
> > Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Dev] Anyone interested in sharing PRI/T1 capacity i
> n
> > US (Virginia)?
> >
> > We are definately interested in both, the calls as well as the DID, can
> you
> > give me some more details and timeframes ?
> > cheers
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > On Sunday 30 Mar 2003 18:23, alex at pilosoft.com shaped the electrons to
> say:
> > > If anyone wants NYC numbers, I'll do the same thing in LATA 132/224
> (North
> > > NJ and NYC). My cost is 20$/concurrent call (not per DID!), and you can
> > > get as many DIDs as you want.
> > >
> > > I will also be able to terminate calls soon in LATA 132 for
> sub-1c/minute.
> > >
> > > Alex Pilosov    | DSL, Colocation, Hosting Services
> > > President | alex at pilosoft.com    (800) 710-7031
> > > Pilosoft, Inc.  | http://www.pilosoft.com
> > >
> > > On Sat, 29 Mar 2003, Steve Radich wrote:
> > > > I got quite a few responses; I'm going to just reply to the list for
> now
> > > > as I'll be quite busy until about mid next week.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Our business in colo (really managed NT web servers more than colo) so
> > > > this is outside the scope of what we do "officially".  I'm open to
> > either
> > > > doing this on an informal relationship with some kind of term
> commitment
> > > > from the partners (as we'll need to sign term commits on any capacity
> of
> > > > lines, being 24 to a T1 and that's more than we need ourselves) or a
> > more
> > > > formal business relationship (i.e. profitable and support as well as
> SLA
> > > > instead of an informal relationship, but support is probably better
> left
> > > > to Digium than BitShop for Asterisk today).
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I'm open to suggestions from anyone on how to do this.  It looks like
> > our
> > > > costs come out to around $15/month per line if I'm not mistaken + cost
> > of
> > > > minutes. Bandwidth charges are probably not measurable amount.  I
> don't
> > > > have quotes yet on DID (?) numbers which I assume people will need
> > > > instead of dialing into our number <grin>.  I also don't fully
> > understand
> > > > how local calls work - do you pay per minute like long distance - One
> of
> > > > our needs is local for cell phones?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I see this as more a grass-roots effort to help the Asterisk community
> > > > more than a profit center; eventually we may want to turn this into
> > > > profit for end users (otherwise we'd go broke if we didn't think about
> > > > profits from time to time).
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > If anyone interested in this has some time to bring me up to speed on
> > > > what the various T1/PRI differences are, and what kind of services we
> > > > need to ask the phone company for a quote on I'm open to their
> feedback
> > -
> > > > I haven't had time yet to figure out exactly what we need in order to
> > get
> > > > a quote.  If someone has an idea of who to talk to in order to order a
> > > > voice T1 please let me know.  I know AT&T, Deutsche Telecom, France
> > > > Telecom, Japan Telecom, Qwest, RCN, SBC, SingTel (Singapore Telecom),
> > > > Sprint, Teleglobe, Verizon, Ameritech, Cavalier Telecom, Cambrian
> > > > Communications, Dominion Telecom, Dynegy, Global Crossing, Pacific
> Bell,
> > > > Time Warner Telecom, Williams are all on-net in the facility our data
> > > > center is in, I don't know if they offer voice here though and don't
> > have
> > > > contacts at most of these.  As you can guess from this list of some of
> > > > the vendors in our data center we're in a huge mega-colocation
> facility
> > > > on the east coast.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Probably what would work best is meeting either online via IRC / AIM
> or
> > > > just talking on the phone to go over this.  If everyone wants to set a
> > > > time I can sign into the Asterisk IRC room to discuss this one night
> > this
> > > > coming week - Maybe Thursday around 9pm EST (Just a suggestion,
> whenever
> > > > is fine really).
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Steve Radich - Colocation / Virtual Dedicated / Dedicated Servers
> > > > BitShop, Inc. -  <http://www.bitshop.com/> http://www.bitshop.com -
> > > > $149/month colo special
> > >
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> >
> > --
> > Michael Bielicki
> > Managing Director
> > TAAN Consultants Ltd
> > http://www.global-gateway.net/
> >
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