[asterisk-biz] Full time Asterisk/Linux job in London

Tue Apr 30 13:58:08 CDT 2013

Christian, call me later when you leave the office..

Also.. I think outsourcing is great especially for smaller startups that
dont have deep pockets. Not everyone can afford a 60k to 100k a year
engineer + benefits + overhead + taxes
But with that said, you get a very different experience and outcome by
having someone dedicated full time and in house in some situations.

On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 11:51 AM, C. Savinovich <c.savinovich at itntelecom.com
> wrote:

> I happen to disagree with "outsourcing". First of all, the ad clearly says
> that they need someone on-site. There are dozens of reasons why someone
> needs to be present, i.e phones need to be provisioned, customer's site
> must be visited, an understanding of the needs of the company can only be
> obtained by being present, in person.  Not everything can be, and should
> not be, solved remotely.
>
> Ultimately outsourcing is bad for the economy.  Valuable cash that could
> be circulating in our local economy is instead kept in banks. Thousands of
> developers who would otherwise be making a better living eventually lose
> their jobs.  But the most important reason of all, at least for the sake of
> this subject at hand is: It doesn't solve this particular company's needs.
> Furthermore, it leads the cheapo who placed the original ad to wrongly
> assume that he can hire someone in England at third world rates.
>
> Christian Savinovich
> *VoIP & Telephony Consultant*
> 646-982-3572
>
>
>
>  -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Full time Asterisk/Linux job in London
> From: Carlos_Ruiz_Díaz <carlos.ruizdiaz at gmail.com>
> Date: Tue, April 30, 2013 12:46 pm
> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
> <asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
>
> Well, I could perfectly outperform on the tasks they are asking in the job
> description for, perhaps, 35k/year. I live in a cheaper country so that
> "low" salary won't be much of a problem for me.
>
> If they're willing to pay that money, they should definitely consider
> outsourcing. I believe that the best resume of a programmer is a Google
> query of his name, so, if they want to hire competent personnel with a low
> budget, they just need to open their minds to telecommuting.
>
> BTW, I applied to this job.
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 12:14 PM, C. Savinovich <
> c.savinovich at itntelecom.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> The real scary part is to think if that's what a medium level Asterisk
>> developer is worth... is that what Asterisk is worth? 30K per year? Who
>> really doesn't have a clue? the guy posting the ad offering the 30K, or us
>> Asterisk developers enmeshed in the wrong field?
>>
>>
>> Christian Savinovich
>> *VoIP & Telephony Consultant*
>> 646-982-3572
>>
>>
>>
>>  -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Full time Asterisk/Linux job in London
>> From: Alex Balashov <abalashov at evaristesys.com>
>> Date: Tue, April 30, 2013 11:58 am
>> To: asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com
>>
>> We can argue about the cost of housing in certain areas all day. One
>> can always trade-off rents for higher commute expense, and so on.
>>
>> What remains true at the end of the day is that the greater London area
>> is a high-cost market in which 30K is not much improvement over minimum
>> wage. It's certainly possible to live on such an income, but it is not
>> reasonable to expect someone with the skills demanded to do so.
>>
>> -- Alex
>>
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