[asterisk-biz] Ovetel Again - here we go !!! ( Partners )

[Vlad Shoz]

Finally , someone to open the eyes!


--- On Mon, 9/20/10, C F <shmaltz at gmail.com> wrote:

From: C F <shmaltz at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Ovetel Again - here we go !!! ( Partners )
To: "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion" <asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
Date: Monday, September 20, 2010, 2:10 PM

All arguments aside I believe the claim that they process 2 billion minutes (http://www.ovetel.com/partners.html) is a lie. here is why:There are 525600 minutes in a year (60*24*365), which makes 2,000,000,000 minutes over 3805 years (2000000000/525600).
Lets take 300,000,000 americans, every american would have to use close to 7 minutes (6.666 to be exact, 2000000000/300000000) with Ovetel for them to have that volume or 
3 million would have to use 666 minutes, or 300000 would have to use 6666 minutes, or 30000 would have to use 66666 minutes or 3000 would have to use 666666 minutes (close to a million). Ovetel guys do you have 3000 customers with over 100k minutes? or 100k customers with over 3k minutes? I doubt it.

On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Michael Schwartzman <carrierroutes at gmail.com> wrote:

Here is my 2 cents this guys who claim to be a Vlad does not look like to be a voip consultant from Dubai, based on headers of emails here what information was obtained:

Received: from TarikPC (76-253-3-118.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net [76.253.3.118]);



So look like this "Vlad" is based in Sunnyvale California. I think it has to be one of Ovetel competitors who has problems competing with them. 

Based on a simple google search: http://www.google.com/search?q=Tarik+Sunnyvale+California&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a#sclient=psy&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=OaO&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=Tarik+Voip+Sunnyvale+CA&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&pbx=1&fp=7b3e9e0669ddb0a1



Here what information was obtained:

Tarik Lakabi

Speaks:: English, Arabic, French

Region:: Middle East, Asia, Africa, Egypt, Libya, South America, Europe

Yahoo Messenger: tariktalk2globe


Email: tarik at talk2globe.com

Source: http://www.tmxvoip.net/contact-us.html

So now we know who is Vlad :). I hope Ovetel lawyers will take some action with a good reaction. 



On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 11:18 AM, Outback Dingo <outbackdingo at gmail.com> wrote:


Vlad
I doubt you even have the right to expect such, after acting like a child in a public forumhighly unprofessional even under the circumstances, also kinda slanderous if you ask me.


Maybe you should prove you have a business relationship with them also as you so claim.Honestly, my preference would be that you just shut up and go away though. Its kinda sadactually to see a grown man, if you are, act with such behaviors in a public forum. Its practically


embarrassing to watch you behave in such a manner. I know 5 year olds who have more characterthen you have displayed.





On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Vlad Shoz <vladshoz at yahoo.com> wrote:



Hello,

Josef, FYI.:


1st - This is a BIZ list. Any business related to VOIP/Asterisk or
termination can be discusses here. 

2nd - If you don't want participate from this thread or don't agree
- don't post comments. be quiet!




3rd - I am waiting Ovetel comment or proofs showing agreement with Swisscom
and Tata as they claimed to have. Easy to solve this. Don't you think?


--- On Tue, 9/21/10, Josef Grand <josef.grand2 at gmail.com> wrote:




From: Josef Grand <josef.grand2 at gmail.com>

Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Ovetel Again - here we go !!! ( Partners )
To: "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion" <asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>



Date: Tuesday, September 21, 2010,
 4:39 AM



 
 

thank you muhamad for your reply
good answer
 
Meftah Tayeb
TMVoip Inc
http://www.awesomevoip.org
+33178768323

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: 
  Muhammad Shomail Haider 
  To: Commercial and Business-Oriented 
  Asterisk Discussion 
  Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 9:32 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Ovetel Again 
  - here we go !!! ( Partners )
  
Please leave this topic aside now.Vlad, you have informed 
  everyone what you feel once, now it's up to them if they want to do business 
  with ovetel or not you don't have to keep on irritating everyone bigging of 
  every week. And please keep the professional attitude here so this list 
  can stay clean and doesn't become garbage like most of the other lists.
  

  Regards,
  

  Shomail  


  On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 9:23 AM, Gray Routes <grayroutes at gmail.com> 
  wrote:

  Vlad 
    (if it is your real name) why you hate so much Yaro and Ovetel? Because he 
    did not let you suck his dick?

I think it is just a hate of 
    competition! I understand it is hard when you see your competitors growing 
    fast and you only sucking dicks. So my advice to you would be stop sucking 
    dicks homo and writing this bullshit here get a life.

Ovetel is very 
    reputable company and many of us here in Asterisk-Biz doing business with 
    Ovetel we don't care who they work with is it a TATA or SwissCom we only 
    care that they provide us with what we need and this is most important.