[asterisk-biz] PRI vs SIP vs ???

[C F]

Oh cmon did you know that Apple has release the Apple I since?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_I
:)

On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Don Kelly <dk at donkelly.biz> wrote:
> Well, I'm back from Mars. Time has passed me by.
>
> When I moved to Minnesota from the Los Angeles CA area in 1972, it was pricy
> to call more than a couple miles in LA and most metropolitan areas and I
> think this is still the situation in some areas. The Twin Cities MN area has
> always had a large local calling area with basic phone service
> (unfortunately the intrastate LD costs are among the worst).
>
> Of course, none of this matters much to those of us who use cell phones for
> virtually all LD, and those who have "unlimited" LD plans.
>
> --Don
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com
> [mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of C F
> Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 10:07 AM
> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] PRI vs SIP vs ???
>
> From Manhatan to the Bronx costs no more than from Manhatan to
> Manhatan. Whether one has a plan that makes calling from Manhatan to
> Manhatan (hence from Manhatan to the Bronx) free is up to that one to
> negotiate with their provider, but when they do they will have the
> same price to 5 area codes ALL exchanges in those area codes; 212,
> 718, 646, 347 and 917.
>
> On 10/31/10, Don Kelly <dk at donkelly.biz> wrote:
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com
>> [mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of C F
>> Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 7:40 PM
>> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
>> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] PRI vs SIP vs ???
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Don Kelly <dk at donkelly.biz> wrote:
>>> If your decision is based on cost alone, it’s likely that the SIP
> solution
>>> is best.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> However, if your client requires voice quality and reliability, the PRI
>>> solution will likely win.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 10-15 concurrent calls over DSL is probably not a good solution.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you’re considering a T1 for Internet access, it’s probably not a
>>> considerable increase in cost to include PRI. Most LECs offer a hybrid
>>> solution that would include 10 PRI voice channels and 832MB Internet
>> (really
>>> dedicated Internet).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If your client is in the Chicago IL USA area the definition of “local”
>> comes
>>> into play. I’m spoiled as I’m located in the Twin Cities MN area—I think
>> we
>>> have the world’s largest local calling area. What percentage of your
>>
>> Why? NYC is really on mars?
>>
>> Things may have changed, but in most big cities it's not free to call
> across
>> town. I can call 70+ miles and reach millions of people without incurring
>> measured charges.
>>
>> http://www.localcallingguide.com/lca_exch.php?exch=095380
>>
>> In New York, can one call from Manhattan to the Bronx for free?
>>
>>
>>> client’s calls are really local?
>>>
>>> --Don
>>>
>>> Don Kelly
>>>
>>> PCF Corp
>>> People Come First
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>>> 888 Don Kell(y)
>>> 651 842-1001 fax
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>>
>>> From: asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com
>>> [mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Brian
> Franklin
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 1:32 AM
>>> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
>>> Subject: [asterisk-biz] PRI vs SIP vs ???
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gotta client that is moving to a VoIP PBX.  Will need 10 concurrent calls
>>> with ability to grow to 15.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Which is better:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> a)      Traditional PRI with unlimited Local, use Least Cost Routing for
>>> Long Distance via SIP trunks via the Internet
>>>
>>> OR
>>>
>>> b)      Flat rate SIP trunks which includes unlimited  Local and Long
>>> Distance (no T1 card needed), riding on Dedicated DSL or Internet T1
>>>
>>> OR
>>>
>>> c)       suggestions?????????
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Brian Franklin
>>>
>>> www.ntginc.net
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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