[asterisk-biz] DIDX Query (Dan Journo)

Steve Totaro stotaro at asteriskhelpdesk.com
Fri Nov 5 13:19:25 CDT 2010


Apologies for the top post.  I am not going to go through all of your
points because you basically wrote off everything except the web
design and speed.

No need to thank me for my service, I am a DoD Contractor.  I do it
for the money.  Expats, especially shooters and IT folks make about
$600 a day, down from the glory days of $1,000+/day.  I am a cog in
the US Military's plausible deniability.  There is almost no
oversight.  It is just the nature of war now days.

The USAID work was truly rewarding in non-monetary ways.

Here is Max's resume.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/25124119/Max-Glucksmann-2010-01-DB-PBX-Web-Mail-IT-Manager-Resume
which clearly lists DIDx.

 DIDx. Pensacola, FL
12/2007 - Present
→ Worked as an API integrator, building web pages to use and display
the APIs for DIDx DID number purchasing and management
through Comtel Networks' website.
→ Sold DIDs to Comtel Networks' clients through the API integration seamlessly.
→ Attended different conference shows representing DIDx as an API
Integrator and customer support agent. Helped accrue new DIDx
members and helped them during the sign-up Inter-op process. The shows
attended include: NXTComm 08, ITExpo 08 & 09,
Astricon 08, CTIA Wireless 09 & VON 09

He clearly said "Attended different conference shows representing DIDx
as an API Integrator and customer support agent. Helped accrue new
DIDx
members and helped them during the sign-up Inter-op process." and you
say I am guilty of defamation.

It is obvious that you are a little better at communicating than the
others at DIDx.  What is your role?  Why not have a single
spokesperson, like yourself?

Rehan and that other dude provoke the list rather than calm and
project a professional persona.  They make everything DIDx look bad.

Try stepping outside of yourself and asking the question, "How come
DIDx gets such a huge amount of criticism and other companies like
Junction or Vitelity do not?"  Really try it, because it may be
enlightening.

Your blog post about culture clashes is almost a play directly from
the Obama Administration.  If a (business) culture does not act
professionally and tries to do business in a place where
professionalism is expected, there will be clashes.  I would call them
professional vs unprofessional clashes.

There are plenty of people from different cultures that conduct
themselves in the proper business context, so it is not culture as in
people, it is the DIDx culture that has been left to thrive.

Why is everything defamatory to you?  Do you even know what the word
means?  You throw it around like you know what it means, but I read
nothing defamatory except some postings from DIDx employees.

You even had the nerve to accuse a Digium employee of defamation for
posting proper etiquette in the business world on the freakin Digium
list.

If we removed your shield, accusing people of defamation, then pretty
much all  of your responses are moot.

DEFAMATION

An act of communication that causes someone to be shamed, ridiculed,
held in contempt, lowered in the estimation of the community, or to
lose employment status or earnings or otherwise suffer a damaged
reputation. Such defamation is couched in 'defamatory language'. Libel
and slander are defamation.

Although defamation is primarily governed by state law, the First
Amendment safeguards for freedom of speech and press limit state law.
New York Times v. Sullivan, 376 U.S. 254, 264 (1964); Masson, 501 U.S.
at 510. The scope of constitutional protection extends to statements
of opinion on matters of public concern that do not contain or imply a
provable factual assertion. Milkovich, 497 U.S. at 20 (rejecting
categorical exemption of all statements in form of opinion; statement
that may imply verifiable assertion of fact is actionable).

To determine whether a statement implies a factual assertion, courts
examine the totality of the circumstances in which it was made. First,
they look at the statement in its broad context, which includes the
general tenor of the entire work, the subject of the statements, the
setting, and the format of the work. Next they turn to the specific
context and content of the statements, analyzing the extent of
figurative or hyperbolic language used and the reasonable expectations
of the audience in that particular situation. Finally, they inquire
whether the statement itself is sufficiently factual to be susceptible
of being proved true or false. See Partington v. Bugliosi, 56 F.3d
1147, 1153 (9th Cir.'94) (applying three-factor test as the starting
point for analysis); Unelko Corp. v. Rooney, 912 F.2d 1049, 1053 (9th
Cir.'90), cert. denied, 499 U.S. 961 (1991).

'[T]he First Amendment requires that the courts allow latitude for
interpretation.' Partington, 56 F.3d at 1154 (quoting Moldea v. New
York Times Co., 22 F.3d 310, 315 (D.C.Cir.), cert. denied, 115 S.Ct.
202 (1994)).

The speaking slanderous words of a person so as to hurt his good fame.

In the United States, the remedy for defamation is by an action on the
case, where the words are slanderous.

Thanks,
Steve Totaro


On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 9:20 AM, Suzanne Bowen <suzanne at didx.net> wrote:
> Just finished studying every item regarding Dan's DIDX Query on whether or
> not buying 50 USA DIDs at $.15 per month would satisfy the 50 minimum DID
> quantity fee on DIDX. Follow-ups:
> 1. Yes, that math is correct. Dan is a valued customer, and I will call him
> to learn more about his company and how we can help him.
> 2. To Steve Totaro stotaro at asteriskhelpdesk.com on Thu Nov 4 07:49:56 CDT
> 2010
> Suzanne’s response:
> a. Your references to
> http://blogs.didx.net/2010/08/honest-review-of-didx-by-member-since.html ...
> You made accusations about our customer Max Glucksmann which appear to be
> defamatory. He has always been our customer, one of the many 1000 who
> actually collaborate with others on the DIDXchange face to face and online
> in IP communications. He is one the DIDX implementors listed at
> http://kb.didx.net/tiki-index.php?page=DIDX+API+Implementors&highlight=max%20glucksmann
> along with three others: Dan Caescu, Sergey Okhapkin, and Usman Hameed. We
> do not pay these people. These people offer to be listed as third party
> consultants for troubleshooting with softswitch, API, interop, etc.
> b.  On the other hand you are right. The word "honest" is not needed. I
> removed it and noted in the blog post that I removed it and why, giving you
> credit.
> c. "Wow, it looks like the testimonial was written by  a person employed by
> DIDx and Astraqom/Comtel."
> Http://blogs.didx.net/2010/08/honest-review-of-didx-by-member-since.html
> includes issues and successes Mr. Glucksmann has had with DIDX . Steve, he
> is not and was never employed by DIDX.
> d. Steve's words ... "I am sure it is just pure coincidence that both
> businesses are in Pensacola, FL..  I will research addresses later if I have
> time, they don't seem to be posted.  For some reason, I think they may even
> share office space or are next door neighbors."
> Facts: Comtel-Networks is in Ft. Lauderdale/Miami, FL. Area, a 15 hour drive
> from Pensacola, FL. DIDX is a service of Super Technologies, Inc., our
> company, since 1999 in Pensacola, FL. The company that Comtel-Networks
> merged with is in Canada. I listen to hundreds of business plans each week
> during my talks with DIDX members each week, and some include the goal to be
> bought, acquired, or merged. I do introduce companies to each other so that
> maybe they can see such a goal to reality, sometimes from among the East and
> West which works out really well! :-D This guy, from a Japanese investment
> banking company based in Tokyo and Los Angeles, explains this very
> well: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZ_FpIf8GHk.
> e. Steve's words ... "They have always come across to me as a shady company
> and I refuse to do business  with them partially because of that and the
> fact that every time I out them, I get constant calls from Suzanne Bowen."
> Super Technologies, Inc. has an R&D team of open source and non open-source
> software developers who are in USA, Mexico, Pakistan, UAE, Singapore, and
> Malaysia. Some of the services are described in this video catalog at
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTWd9l2PXOI.  Some of us have dark skin, but
> none of us are shady in character.
> We have worked through technical and customer issues since 1999 and still
> managed to keep an A+ Better Business Bureau rating in the USA. This is a
> fact.
> I have only called you, Steve, two times in the past 11 years I have been in
> this business. Both times were to confront you directly regarding your
> accusations of our company.
> f. Regarding your questions you list for Dan at the end of your email ...
> any vendor can join DIDX to sell phone numbers to the other members. As a
> result, we clearly list for each DID offered, the vendor rating, the NRC and
> MRC, the billing structure, and the features included. In many cases, the
> buyer members have a choice of vendors, sometimes as many as 10.
> Junction, VoicePulse and Vitelity are also excellent choices to meet certain
> kind of DID needs. I can say the same for DIDww, DIDforSale, Voxbone,
> Binfone, TollFreeForwarding, MyDivert, JetNumbers, VoxOx, etcera. I have
> actually referred people to each of these for the reason that the model fit
> perfectly. This method of doing business has helped me professionally and my
> company to gain worldwide respect.
> 3. Regarding the message from Fred Posner fred at teamforrest.com  on Thu
> Nov 4 08:00:35 CDT 2010 ...
> Suzanne’s response: Yes, see
> http://www.tmcnet.com/channels/did-ddi/articles/56117-telethon-taps-open-source-save-costs.htm.
> It was one of the most exciting experiences in my work life to work with
> these companies to help bring a positive impact to children's lives in NW FL
> via Linking Arms nonprofit organization. Thank you, Fred, Comtel-Networks,
> Skype and Digium for your help on this.
> Quote from the TMC press release: "While Super Technologies, Inc. andDIDX
> contributed the Super Phone 8000 Internet phones, local DID (direct inward
> dialing) and SIP trunking, TEAMFORREST, Comtel-Networks, Skype and Digium
> were able to step in to provide services that supported a network of laptops
> and also allowed for volunteers to answer more than 20 voice over Internet
> calls at one time."
> 4. Regarding the message from Peter Beckman on beckman at angryox.com on Thu
> Nov 4 14:08:11 CDT 2010 ... “Their site is slow and awful, the design is bad
> and not well thought out, their API is useless for actually finding and
> purchasing DIDs, and the 50 DID or $50/month requirement is annoying, though
> from a business sense I understand the
> motivation.”
> Suzanne’s response: I agree, sometimes www.didx.net is slow. We are working
> on replacing some of the front end and back.
> If the type of DID you want is actually on DIDX, it will be very easy to
> find. We have an advanced search. Feel free to watch a demo here:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDpicf3MslQ ... please pause the video so you
> can see all the filters available. Check out our free APIs, too at
> http://www.didx.net/api.
> We created the minimum to keep the service at a reasonable wholesale level
> and so that we are not competing with our members who sell directly as well
> as on DIDX.
> 5. Regarding the message from Steve Totaro stotaro at totarotechnologies.com
>  on Thu Nov 4 13:32:20 CDT 2010 ...
>  "Can you share ten contacts at the fortune 500 companies since they all use
> you?  I call serious BS on that."
> Suzanne’s response: Under non-disclosure agreement, we cannot answer this
> with specific company names publicly though we would love to. Out of the top
> 500 listed at
> http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune500/2010/full_list/, we serve
> 8 in the top 200 and 6 more out of the next 300.
> 6. Regarding the message from Jai Rangi jprangi at gmail.com on Thu Nov 4
> 12:41:22 CDT 2010 ...
> "$8.99/Month, Unlimited Minute with 20 channels has been unbeatable. On the
> other side Vitelity is $17 per channel."
> Suzanne’s response: For certain needs, your unlimited with 20 channels is
> fantastic. I talk to dozens of people via voice over IP every day in our
> industry around the world. I get excellent reviews about your services, Jai.
> I would think small calling card service operators are knocking your doors
> down. :-D I have referred these types to you for these reasons.
> 7. Regarding Bryan M. Johns bjohns at digium.com's remarks on Thu Nov 4
> 12:51:08 CDT 2010 ...
> "... making disparaging remarks about competitors in the process is
> considered to be rude and is discouraged."
> Suzanne’s response: Bryan, making defamatory remarks about a company's
> customer should also be discouraged.
> 8. Regarding Alex Balashov abalashov at evaristesys.com's remarks on Thu Nov
> 4 13:56:19 CDT 2010 including the following ...
> "The debasement, cultural Third Worldisation, and used car salesmanship of
> the VoIP origination business presently being ascribed to DIDX in this
> thread is a real story, consisting of real thoughts by real people that is a
> useful data point from an empirical perspective.  Everyone is, of course,
> free to make their own judgments and  purchasing decisions.  However, there
> is clearly sufficient consensus around this angle on it that it's not just a
> figment of one disgruntled individual's imagination."
> Suzanne’s emotional response (Ack! Bring back the usually quite rational
> Suzanne!):
> http://suzanne.supertec.com/2010/11/when-going-gets-tough-tough-cry-little.html.
> 9. Regarding Bryan M. Johns bjohns at digium.com's remarks on Thu Nov 4
> 14:59:37 CDT 2010 in reference to Alex's comments I listed in #8 ...
> "Well put, Alex.  Thank you for taking the time to write it.
> Carry on. ;-) "
> Suzanne’s response: Bryan?
> 10. Regarding Steve Totaro stotaro at totarotechnologies.com's remarks on
> Thu Nov 4 14:04:19 CDT 2010 ...
> "There are just a few rotten apples that are competitors and usually not
> from the US.  They are deceitful and make the list nearly useless."
> Suzanne’s response: “… few rotten apples … usually not from the US”?
> "Usually" is not true.
> Steve, BTW, I respect the IP communications work that you have done abroad
> in regards to USA government contracts in war and peace times. Why? My
> father is a Vietnam War veteran. My brother was in the Marines. Our nephew
> graduated from the Naval Academy in Quantitative Economics and has served as
> a submarine officer in the US Navy in Maryland, etc. etc.
> 11. Regarding Dan Journo dan at keshercommunications.com's post about Fri
> Nov 5 05:38:48 CDT 2010 regarding Nauman's message of "Didx loves you !!"
> Suzanne’s response: It is true, Dan. We did have 23 new sign-ups on DIDX
> yesterday and 11 of them said they read about us on the Asterisk-Biz list
> yesterday. We'll do our best to help these new VoIP companies based in USA
> and from those OTHER countries. The success of DIDX members is important to
> us, now and ongoing.
> We don't mind the "trash talking" online. It gives us a chance to confront
> and/or collaborate with others in public. And I agree with Nauman. We thank
> all of you.
>
> Suzanne Bowen
> VP, Super Technologies, Inc. since 1999, A+ Better Business Bureau rating
> Networking: http://www.linkedin.com/in/suzannebowen
> Media channel: http://www.didx.net/podcast
>
> On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 2:52 PM, <asterisk-biz-request at lists.digium.com>
> wrote:
>>
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 14:53:46 -0400
>> From: Dan Journo <dan at keshercommunications.com>
>> Subject: [asterisk-biz] DIDX Query
>> To: Nauman Ibrahim <ni at supertec.com>
>> Cc: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
>>        <asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
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>> Hi,
>>
>> I am aware that I need to have a minimum of 50 DDI's on my account in
>> order to avoid the $50 monthly fee.
>>
>> I've noticed that DIDX have a USA numbers available for $0.15.
>>
>> Does that mean if I purchase 50 USA numbers @ 0.15, all I will have to pay
>> is $7.50 per month?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Dan
>
>
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