[asterisk-biz] USF payments

Alex Balashov abalashov at evaristesys.com
Tue Mar 2 19:16:14 CST 2010


You are correct in your interpretation.  You have successfully 
separated the game from the truth.

On 03/02/2010 07:58 PM, SIP wrote:

> I understand paying USF. That's not an issue.
>
> But, and I will quote the regulations that were quoted to me:
>
> "All telecommunications service providers and certain other providers of
> telecommunications must contribute to the federal USF based on a
> percentage of their INTERSTATE and INTERNATIONAL end-user
> telecommunications revenues."
>
> Anything that doesn't fall under the umbrella of interstate or
> international telecommunication revenue (i.e. E911 connectivity charges,
> DID monthly charges not involving traffic) do NOT fall under the purview
> of valid USF.   Charging a flat rate for ALL money added to the prepay
> account makes them money, surely, but it's not valid USF charges.
>
> It also was never mentioned to us. This is the first month this has ever
> happened, and it's sudden, without notification, and without contractual
> modifications.
>
> It's bad enough that they charge for International termination from the
> start of a call (not from when it's answered), but now they're charging
> a percentage of their own fees as, essentially, fees.
>
> N.
>
> Jai Rangi wrote:
>> USF charges are valid, some one has to pay them. USF taxes are pass
>> though and companies often charge their customers for all Origination
>> and Termination. However things that does not fall in origination and
>> termination should not be taxed.
>> Example: Say you are using some hosting and consultancy services from
>> Vitelity, that should not be taxed.
>>
>> -Jai
>> www.didforsale.com<http://www.didforsale.com>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 4:31 PM, SIP<sip at arcdiv.com
>> <mailto:sip at arcdiv.com>>  wrote:
>>
>>      Our primary termination/origination carrier (Vitelity) has recently
>>      decided to start charging us a USF percentage on every payment we make
>>      to them. Keep in mind, 90% of the money we pay them is for
>>      administrative fees, not for origination or termination charges on any
>>      of the several hundred DIDs which get very little usage.
>>
>>      Our other two carriers don't do this, but I'm wondering whether or not
>>      they're out of the ordinary, or if it's just Vitelity.
>>
>>      It seems as though USF, which is a pay-for-use fee, should not be
>>      allowed to be assessed on administrative and non-traffic-related
>>      commerce. It strays away from being a USF charge at that point and
>>      becomes a general 'service charge' for non USF-related purposes.
>>
>>      Have people run into this with other carriers?
>>
>>      N.
>>
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