[asterisk-biz] RES: OpenSIPS Bootcamp

[Elena Ramona Modroiu]

On 01/-10/-28163 08:59 PM, OpenSIPS wrote:
> I thought three times before replying this post, mailing list discussions
> are endless, but you have insulted me publicly and thus I cannot stay quiet
> about this.
>    

I haven't gotten in any public debates regarding this topic, although I
co-founded OpenSER, but you crossed far too much the common sense
limits. You simply copied sources of kamailio (openser), deleted credits
of many developers and you claim you are openser! More than that, now
you are playing the victim role?!?!

People can figure out themselves if they have to deal with a honest,
respectable or liar, opportunistic person.

Maybe you can shed some light on following questions:

1) did openser developed because you wrote a book or you wrote the book
about openser because it was a good and popular application? Did you
benefit of our work on openser to write the book or we benefited from
yours to build openser?

2) in your concept of "western countries", where do you locate Germany?
You wanted to do a joke, or?

3) if you believe that only I and Daniel (I assume you refer to us by
"the two founders") are with kamailio (openser) after the fork of
opensips from kamailio (openser) version 1.4.0, are we the ones that
developed these many new features afterwards?
http://www.kamailio.org/dokuwiki/doku.php/features:new-in-1.5.x
http://www.kamailio.org/dokuwiki/doku.php/features:new-in-3.0.x

Two years ago you wrote a consistent part of your book about lcr and
radius. Is Juha (the author of those components) in your project or in
kamailio (openser). What about Klaus, Henning, Andreas and the others
that were contributing to openser before your fork in August 2008? They
are in the same place they got first time, openser which is now named
kamailio. You misinform and you are fully aware of it.

4) as you consider yourself a respectable person and I see you are using
an email address showing you represent the project, can you explain how
coobooks I and Daniel wrote got simply copied to your project site but
the original authors were deleted and the source of content is not
mentioned at all? I assume you can spot them on your site, so see the
original docs:
http://www.kamailio.org/dokuwiki/doku.php/core-cookbook:1.4.x
http://www.kamailio.org/dokuwiki/doku.php/pseudovariables:1.4.x
http://www.kamailio.org/dokuwiki/doku.php/transformations:1.4.x

5) Where did you send royalties from your book to openser project? I am
not aware of any such thing coming from you and reaching the project.

6) If your project is continuation of openser, I am one of the
co-founders, Daniel is another one, why it has only one founder and not
three as it is supposed to be for openser?

An astonishing part of code in your project is written by SER and
Kamailio (OpenSER) developers only. Anyone can fork, it is open source,
but should stick to the truth and give proper credits to original
authors, don't counterfeit the history and entitle himself the author.

Looking forward to your honest replies.

Ramona


>    
>> "Well, as you contributed nothing in terms of code, money and time to bring
>>      
> openser at this stage, but now you use its name for own financial reasons,
>    
>> it is in the open source spirit that you>should give the proper credits
>>      
> and try to figure out the truth and present it correctly."
>
> If users are not contributors of a project, please put a sign in your
> website "users are not welcome here", if this is your open source spirit
> certainly it is not mine. You are not considering the percentage of the
> royalties that come from my book "Building Telephony Systems with OpenSER"
> so your statement is simply not true and unfair to a whole community of
> users who test, debug and show new uses and requirements for the software.
> About financial reasons, I don't know how it works where you live, but in
> western countries in the end of the month, bills can only be paid using
> money. To write the book "Building Telephony Systems with OpenSER" took me
> two years and in my opinion it has contributed to increase the user base of
> OpenSER. As you give the impression to consider users unimportant and
> irrelevant, this is probably considered nothing.  To be honest, I think I
> deserve some apologies for this statement.
>
> The thing that bother me most was the insinuation that I get financial
> advantage of open source code and do not give back to the community. I have
> sponsored and developed the sermyadmin project
> (http://sourceforge.net/projects/sermyadmin/), an web graphical user
> interface for OpenSER, it is free and open source.
>
> I consider myself a respectable member of the Asterisk community.  The
> Asterisk books I have written in English and Spanish are free downloads
> (www.asteriskguide.com), licensed according to the Creative Commons license,
> anyone can read and even write (Wiki-book) to it. The project midivts,
> sponsored by my company,  (a Brasilian distribution of Asterisk with
> portuguese sounds, mfc/r2 and freepbx translated to portuguese) is hosted in
> sourceforge and is open source and free to the community. We have sold in
> our company a few thousands of Digium telephony interfaces in the last 5
> years, and I believe this helps to sponsor it. Brasil is nowadays one of the
> biggest markets for open source telephony software and I'm sure I have
> contributed at least a bit for this result, training more than 2000
> administrators in the last five years.
>
>    
>> "all the openser developers are still with kamailio"
>>      
> Unless you consider only the two founders that stayed after the split, this
> is simply not true. Again, you are not considering the whole community. Just
> checking the list of contributors of the newest version of OpenSIPS in the
> changelog, anyone can see that it is not true.
>
>    
>> "Nobody was kicked from anywhere, from where did you get this? The only
>>      
> action taken when the fork was discovered (few hours before announcement)
> was to restrict admin rights (which>meant only no longer ability to
> add/remove developers from project) - developer rights, tracker, user
> access, everything else was not touched. If others retired by free willing
> over the time, it>was by their wish."
>
> I haven't accused you of anything, so I don't know why so many explanations.
>
>
> This is my last post in this thread and I hope this ends here.
>
> Flavio E. Goncalves,
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