[asterisk-biz] Need USA virtual PRIs for www.VisionVoIP.com
Zeeshan Zakaria
zishanov at gmail.com
Thu Sep 3 15:40:28 CDT 2009
Barton, from your unrelated reply it is very obvious that you haven't even
read the thread. Go read it first and then give your opinion.
--
Zeeshan A Zakaria
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Barton Fisher <bhfisher at icpage.com> wrote:
> Zeeshan, give it up - If you don't like the answer, then go ask your
> questions elsewhere. Don't complain about the the answer. Further, the mail
> list is not the place to air out your problems with another user - That's
> what email is for; or even better use the delete button and go on with your
> life....
>
> But I'm fairly certain you've burn yourself for any additional help from
> the list
>
> My 2 cents,
>
> Bart
>
> Zeeshan Zakaria wrote:
>
>> Alex, basically you don't want people to post on this list because it
>> bothers you why people don't know what they are asking for, or what they
>> want what you don't like. As far as I have seen you read posts with the
>> purpose to find something to object on. It has nothing to do with laziness
>> or English. Its only a bad habit of yours. You even have book marked such
>> posts to refer to, which you just did here for Rehan's post. If you have
>> problem with somebody's posting, don't read it. Why are you reading it if
>> you don't like it. The objective of your replies is to make the posters feel
>> bad for asking anything, or maybe you have nothing better to do in life, and
>> have enough spare time to sit, read and object on people's posts. I am sure
>> you must be doing the same on some other mailing lists.
>>
>> Next time, just delete my email, I really don't need your responses. Or
>> maybe I should start ending my posts with "Not for Alex Balashov" so you
>> know it is not for you. It is unbelievable that your negative comments on a
>> small two line email asking for a good provider with option for IAX trunk
>> has converted it into a huge thread of useless discussion.
>>
>> --
>> Zeeshan A Zakaria
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Alex Balashov <abalashov at evaristesys.com<mailto:
>> abalashov at evaristesys.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Pascal Bruno wrote:
>>
>> > But remember the list is international, even myself, english is
>> not my
>> > mother language, so some questions will never be as clear as you
>> would
>> > expect and yes lazy do people exist, but it would not harm nobody to
>> > point them to the right direction without teaching them everything
>> > and making them feel unwelcomed. Also I believe one must be
>> objective as
>> > much as you can but at the same time free to give personal opinions
>> > while clearly saying it is a personal opinion, if not, you may be
>> > minimizing the novices to explore and experience other stuff by
>> themself
>> > and see what works best for them.
>>
>> This is a valid argument, and I cannot dispute it.
>>
>> Regarding lazyness vs. English, many people will often try to mask
>> their
>> lazyness or unwillingness to pose intellectually coherent,
>> well-thought
>> out and realistic questions by hiding behind the "English is not my
>> native language" defense.
>>
>> It doesn't work, and the difference is trivial to see. I have
>> seen far,
>> far higher-quality questions asked by people whose English skills are
>> vastly below those of the non-native-English-speaking drive-by posters
>> on this family of lists. The intent to ask something specific and
>> cogent can be discerned, and legitimate language barriers are
>> understandable and can be gotten around.
>>
>> I suppose there are some conversations that simply cannot be had
>> because
>> the original posters' English limitations are simply
>> insurmountable, but
>> I think I've only seen one or two posts like that in my entire time
>> here, if that. The rest use the fallacious Rehan Defense:
>>
>>
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com/msg24232.html
>>
>> -- Alex
>>
>> --
>> Alex Balashov - Principal
>> Evariste Systems
>> Web : http://www.evaristesys.com/
>> Tel : (+1) (678) 954-0670
>> Direct : (+1) (678) 954-0671
>>
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