[asterisk-biz] India VoIP termination - FRAUD- BE Careful
Vlasis Hatzistavrou (KTI)
vhatz at kinetix.gr
Mon Nov 2 05:53:32 CST 2009
Just my 2 cents: there are escrow, exchange & clearinghouse services
that one can use in order to secure business.
Simple prepay/postpay nowadays is too dangerous, not only with small &
unknown operators but even with large & well known carriers. They too
will dispute just about anything...
Best regards,
Vlasis Hatzistavrou.
Andy Spring wrote:
> Hi Dennis, first I am sorry to hear your bad news, but i can give you
> some suggestion, most of business men are trust parterns, only very
> little are frauds, yes, sometimes, it is very difficult to find out who
> is sincerely and who is not, but you can test them from a very small
> order starting after you have dealt many many small business
> succesfully, then start big orders or stop contact with them.
>
> 2009/11/2 <info at dialontel.com <mailto:info at dialontel.com>>
>
> Hi Andy and Everyone in this Forum,
>
> Of course Andy we are very Angry. Last Year in total we lost over
> 30K USD and Asia Telecom and BroadTelephone 3K USD invoice is part
> of it. This has effect our business process to do much more
> verification in giving post pay/prepay and it has become almost
> impossible find out who is geniune and who is not.
>
> Even though These two companies are registered in UK and USA its
> managed and owned by Pakistan guys (nothing personal to
> Pakistanies) so my point is we can not judge a company from where it
> is registered.
>
>
> So I bilieve most effective way to minimize frauds is to keep close
> contact with trusted partners and their frauds, so you can keep away
> from frauds.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Dennis S.
> DialOnTel Team
> <http://www.dialontel/>
>
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] India VoIP termination - FRAUD- BE
> Careful
> From: Andy Spring <andyspr at gmail.com <mailto:andyspr at gmail.com>>
> Date: Sun, November 01, 2009 5:15 am
> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
> <asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com
> <mailto:asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>>
>
> Haha... Maybe Dennis is very angry with them, but what make me
> suprised is that the frauds are from UK and USA, whose
> reputation are good and they also think themselves come with
> good reputation, but also rubbish
>
> 2009/10/31 <info at dialontel.com <mailto:info at dialontel.com>>
>
> Hi All,
>
> DO NOT sell any minutes to BroadTelepone or AsiaTelecom.
> They have a pending invoice to us for last 8 months 3000
> USD. Our company name is DialOnTel. we were seling India to
> them. These companies are fraud based in UK and USA.
> AsiaTelecom UK is currently on liquadation.
>
> Sikander - Director, Faruk -Tech guy never response to our
> calls or emails.
>
> DO NOT Give post pay to them.
>
> My name is Dennis from DialOnTel.
> dennis at dialontel.com <mailto:dennis at dialontel.com>
> info at dialontel.com <mailto:info at dialontel.com>
>
> Sikander if you see this email you are most welcome to
> contact me as you never response to our emials or calls.
>
> Thanks,
> DialOnTel Team
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] India VoIP termination
> From: Sikander Saeed <sikander at asiatele.net
> <mailto:sikander at asiatele.net>>
> Date: Fri, October 30, 2009 4:04 pm
> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
> <asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com
> <mailto:asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>>
>
> BroadTelephone is based in USA and involve in wholesale
> and retail VoIP services in USA, Canada and UK since
> last decade. We are looking for quality route to India.
> Our targets are:
>
> India 919 mobile $0.0110
> India 9194 $0.0125
> India ROC 91 $0.0150
> India Cities $0.0130
>
> Our daily traffic is about 25,000 minutes per day.
> Please let us know if you can provide such service.
>
> Sikander Saeed
> BroadTelephone, Inc.
> www.broadtelephone.com <http://www.broadtelephone.com/>
>
>
> Mitul Limbani wrote:
>> Brian,
>>
>> So if I m correct this would be a one of retail customer who needs to
>> call their indian partner company?
>>
>> Please email me in a bit more detail off the list, coz we have helped
>> several US based companies optimize their communication cost to their
>> indian counter part or indian offshore units.
>>
>> And I think we can help your customer too.
>>
>> Thanks & Regards,
>> Mitul Limbani,
>> Founder & CEO,
>> Enterux Solutions Pvt. Ltd.,
>> The Enterprise Linux Company (r),
>> http://www.enterux.com <http://www.enterux.com/>
>> http://www.entVoice.com <http://www.entvoice.com/>
>>
>> On 27-Oct-2009, at 7:30 AM, "Brian Franklin" <bfranklin at ntginc.net> <mailto:bfranklin at ntginc.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I have an executive that needs low cost minutes to a partner firm in
>>> India. Clear calls and low cost is the primary concern.
>>>
>>> Brian
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com <mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com>
>>> [mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of mtlvoip
>>> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 8:48 PM
>>> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
>>> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] USA to India
>>>
>>>
>>> with what kind of features and in which level of price are your
>>> looking
>>>
>>> for?
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Brian Franklin" <bfranklin at ntginc.net> <mailto:bfranklin at ntginc.net>
>>> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 9:32 PM
>>> To: "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion"
>>> <asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com> <mailto:asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
>>> Subject: [asterisk-biz] USA to India
>>>
>>>
>>>> Looking for quality international SIP termination...particularly to
>>>> India.
>>>>
>>>> Any suggestions?
>>>>
>>>>
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