[asterisk-biz] OT: Co-location vs Build Out Insight

Stephane Bakhos voip-asterisk at maximumcrm.com
Wed Apr 8 00:10:41 CDT 2009


Most colo centers have extensive physical security systems, including at 
the very least cameras and swipe cards. A few also require fingerprint 
and/or palm print for a lot of doors.

Most also will have plenty of employees and management will take a very 
dim view of an employee stealing from a customer, and if they are worth 
their salt will cooperate with police in any investigation. Imagine if 
that kind of news came out for a publicly traded colocation company.

But at the end of the day, you are much more at risks from all of the bots 
and hackers out there scanning ip ranges and brute forcing SIP accounts to 
try to access a PBX then from the colo employees.

As a side note, don't forget to put in a firewall in front of the remote 
access card and only let trusted IPs access them.

On Tue, 7 Apr 2009, Wes Reece wrote:

> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 23:59:20 -0400
> From: Wes Reece <wreece79 at gmail.com>
> Reply-To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
>     <asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
>     <asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] OT: Co-location vs Build Out Insight
> 
> Its interesting that most people prefer colo. I dont know why but I'm afraid
> of trusting other people with my operations or data. The thought of the colo
> employee, sending out millions of voip calls from my box perhapse. How did
> you guys over come this fear? or am I just being too paranoid?
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 9:40 PM, Stephane Bakhos <
> voip-asterisk at maximumcrm.com> wrote:
>
>> Yes, we use these in our most critical servers.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 7 Apr 2009, ContactTel Business wrote:
>>
>>> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 20:29:10 -0400
>>> From: ContactTel Business <lists at contacttel.com>
>> > Reply-To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
>>>     <asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
>>> To: 'Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion'
>>>     <asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] OT: Co-location vs Build Out Insight
>>>
>>> Steph, you talking about
>>> http://www.ami.com/products/product.cfm?CatID=4&SubID=32&prodid=196 ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com
>>> [mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Stephane
>> Bakhos
>>> Sent: April-07-09 7:52 PM
>>> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
>>> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] OT: Co-location vs Build Out Insight
>>>
>>> If you are starting out in business colocation is usually the cheapest
>>> option. you won't have to worry about all of the hassle related to
>> running
>>> an actual data center.
>>>
>>> There are a lot of colocation providers out there, unfortunately the
>>> various experiences I had only proved that cost is not the best metric
>> for
>>> reliability.
>>>
>>> I do however recommend that you have in house technical staff and not to
>>> rely on the staff of whichever colocation center you select. Or at the
>>> very least make sure you work with a dependable contractor that can
>>> respond to emergencies.
>>>
>>> If that isn't an option, invest in a lights-out remote management card to
>>> plug your server in (www.ami.com has some ok ones).
>>>
>>> On Tue, 7 Apr 2009, Max Clark wrote:
>>>
>>>> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:27:34 -0700
>>>> From: Max Clark <max.clark at gmail.com>
>>>> Reply-To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
>>>>     <asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
>>>> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
>>>>     <asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] OT: Co-location vs Build Out Insight
>>>>
>>>> There are a lot of pieces to this puzzle. Examples:
>>>>
>>>> - For some companies the $1,000/sq foot average construction costs
>>>> keep the idea of building an in house datacenter off the table.
>>>> - For small (100 sq foot) installations it's reasonable to purchase a
>>>> medium sized UPS and HVAC for the computer room - the nightmare is
>>>> getting a generator installed and a permit for the exhaust and fuel
>>>> storage.
>>>> - Even installing fiber into your office
>>>> (http://www.phyber.com/ip/#ontap) doesn't give you the rapid scale of
>>>> being able to order new GigE/10Gig circuits overnight at a colo.
>>>>
>>>> How much would it cost your business per hour of downtime? Could you
>>>> survive if you lost service to your building for two days?
>>>>
>>>> For most it is way easier/cheaper to colocate the equipment.
>>>>
>>>> -Max
>>>>
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